Elongated Coins/Pennies

I really appreciate that this thread was started, it's piqued my interest in a genre to which I'd paid almost no attention previously. It's motivated me to purchase a few of these in lots, and do some reading up on them, with the result that I'm now much more appreciative of them. I'm certainly still quite the neophyte, but at least I've already some sort of grasp of the basics.

I do have yet a few (related) questions. As much as it seems unlikely on the whole that these would be counterfeited, are in fact any elongateds being reproduced with intent to deceive? If so, which ones, what is their origin, and can they be readily detected?

Short answer is probably, As the die are usable if they aren't cancelled,the dies are collected sold and traded as is the elongateds. In some of the books and booklets on them or even the lists they are referred to as open or closed dies. Some are sold as new issued, others are sold as original old ones. Most that are selling the new old dies state as much. But like everything today, some are out to cheat, scam etc. There are some that think there aren't enough designs for some of the worlds fairs/expo's and have designed new dies and using age appropriate pennies to roll them.
Here is a classic on the subject

It lists open and closed dies if known. They aren't counterfeit as such but even ones that may be sold the first time as new old dies, and stated as such. The second and third seller etc. may forget to mention that fact. I think with the proper patina on the coin. It will be hard to known. Since as with other coinage there are a number of Fantasy ones that are out there. Having looked through the current books I have on elongateds, The rerolls can be down over a period of years. As long as there isn't deception used in selling them, and the price is reasonable. Than most collectors don't seem to have a problem with them. The Columbia Expo of 1893 is one expamle of fantsy ones as only pennies were rolled at the ti9me now ypu can get it on every coin you can thing of.

There are no hard and fast rules as to cleaning the elongateds after they change hands so to speak. Some like them shinny so like the patina.
is another way of saying re-rolls but used for ebay and other auction sites, to hook newbees with deals. If they are the same designs from original die rolls. Than they are real roll just new rolls.

And in better condition than the example I posted, I'd judge. Mine can also be determined to have been rolled from a Lincoln Cent, but in my case the date is completely obliterated.

I'm not really sure where to put this coin in my album!



It was smashed at the Dreilander Punkt - the spot where the countries of Germany, Belgium and The Netherlands meet - a bit like Four Corners! And, yes, there used to be a fourth country meeting here - the territory of Neutral Moresnet!

Circus - where is that from with the (Great Lakes?) ore freighter?

Thanks....