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 Posted 01/07/2006  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrk4lvg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
actually, now having looked at it a bit futher...it appears to be Decmeber 10th was D-day. It's sad that sellers out there, like this, do exist still today. I hope everyone paid with paypal/credit card and reversed payment!
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 Posted 01/07/2006  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adobero1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Funny thing, I had a reverse of this situation happen to me just a few weeks before Christmas. I had sold my very first lots on ebay, some Christmas figurines, (after yrs. of buying stuff) and one "buyer" never responded to emails. It turned out that this person, despite years of excellent feedback before, suddenly decided to bid on literally thousands of items, but chose to pay for a just a handful. I suppose that was the scam...bid outrageously high to be sure to win on thousands of lots, then go through and pick out the better buys. Buyer was NARU'd of course. This isn't as bad a honest buyers paying for items never rec'd of course, but did represent quite an inconvenience for lots of sellers! In my case, I didn't care that much, since I didn't think my particular lot sold for enough anyway!
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 Posted 01/07/2006  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrk4lvg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am ULTRA picky about who I buy from. I have been using ebay soley since 2000. I have not bought anything but clothes from a store since. I don't mind waiting the extra time to save a couple of bucs via ebay. I have been burned 3 times. Losing a total of $30 or so. Enough, however, for me to just take my time and find that right seller. I won't even look at a sellers items with anything less than 99% positive. Mine is only 99.2%, with only 1 negative feedback (126 positive) on a .02 cent item, lol.
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 Posted 01/08/2006  12:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KLD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You do need to do your homework on the seller before bidding. If this is done you minimise the risk of getting burnt.
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 Posted 01/08/2006  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Jayson. I went through all of the feedback and agree that she had quite a few Neg's before this, but nothing to indicate that this December was "take the money and run". It appears the seller stopped taking Paypal in late 2004 or early 2005. It seems most folks paid by check, money order and believe it or not cash! All I can say is it spoiled a lot of peoples Christmas and many stated they had never been burned on ebay prior to this. Mike
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 Posted 01/08/2006  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrk4lvg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
on a side note, the cat in your avatar looks to have bought an item from this ebay seller
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 Posted 01/08/2006  01:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He's my "paranoid" Avatar! His name is Larry. I put him up when I sense paranoia on the forum. He only buys his medications and cat food. He will eat coins if he gets a hold of them, so I have to hide them from him. We take many of the same medications. He has 75 sisters and brothers so he never got a lot of attention when he was growing up. Mike
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 Posted 01/08/2006  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wrk4lvg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Speaking of paranoia. Stop into the general discussion forum.
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 Posted 01/08/2006  03:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since I was housekeeping(the old "House Mouse" in me came out)I moved this to the ebay discussion area. Mike
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 Posted 01/08/2006  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tnwalker10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe this bozo sortof had this planned. Three weeks before Christmas, frantic shopping season, and presto!, quit shipping and keep collecting. I agree with Terry, this yoyo needs a personal visit.
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 Posted 01/14/2006  4:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heather the Hoarder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This sort of thing is why I consider ebay and other auction sites to be the marketplace of last resort. I have bought there and have done fine, but I have bought fewer than 10 items from ebay in the past three years or more. On the rare occasions that I do buy there, I carefully read through the feedback ratings. And I only buy items there that I want badly and cannot find anywhere else.

I have never bought coins there. There are so many good sources for coins that I don't feel the need to take the risk. I find the auction process annoying anyway.

I would feel good about buying coins on ebay from a seller who has a good, long-established bricks-and-mortar reputation or from another seller for whom I have good recommendations from sources that I trust. Positive feedback isn't necessarily sufficient.

It's unfortunate that the auction sites are such fertile ground for scammers. They give good sellers on these sites a bad name, and they discourage people (like me) from using the auction sites at all.

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 Posted 01/14/2006  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know how this thread escaped me. I would have commented a long time ago.

It is unfortunate that ebay is the type of venue that makes it very easy to run scams like this one. If a seller doesn't get too greedy, they can usually get a away with it too. The internet offers incredible anonymity.

As Heather has said, it's situations like this one that give the honest sellers there a bad name. There are many very honest sellers (yes, in coins too) that I will never hesitate to buy from.

ebay is a terrific venue to sell since they basically take care of advertising for you and are so well known. The days of the brick-and-mortar shops are numbered at this point. The costs are much higher and security is a constant concern. Selling on the internet offers better protection without the overhead needed for a shop. All in all, it makes good business sense.

It is possible to protect yourself with some education and careful investigation. Forums like this one provide a place for people to post the auctions and get educated opinions. Communities like ours are in a position to help protect the members.

It is unfortunate that the negative transactions get so much more attention than the positive transactions. Isn't that just the way of the world, though?
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 Posted 01/15/2006  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is also the tremendous potential buyer market. For any particular coin, hits on an auction site may number in the dozens, hundreds, or even thousands. A brick-and-mortar shop in a small city would be happy to see a half-dozen people a day.

There's also the advantage of fast turnover with ebay sales. Instead of holding a coin in a cabinet for weeks, months, or years waiting for it to roll over, ebay will cause it to roll over in 1, 3, 5, 7, or 10 days if the start price is reasonable.
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