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Bedrock of the Community
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It's good that there's bills instead of coins. Aside from the hassle of carrying a ton of coins, coins are much easier to counterfeit than bills are. Quote: sel_69l, how many different coins are common in Australia? In the USA, we have 4 common coins, and might need two compartments set aside in a cash register to hold quarters. 6. 5c, 10c, 20c, 50c, $1, $2. You end up with a ton of money in the cup holder in the car. Quote: really don't know why everyone doesn't use plastic cards. Stores charge the same if cash or plastic. I get money back when using plastic, not cash. Why carry something heavier than one plastic card? Exactly. It's cheaper to use the credit card and pay it off every month than it is to pay in cash at 99 percent of places.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The project was clearly a failure, as mentioned the competition held the success back, it should have been One or the other.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3471 Posts |
They were actually struck with the hope that they might circulate in spite of the failure of every modern dollar coin doing so.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
4868 Posts |
If coin collectors are aware of the only reason dollar coins don't work then why doesn't our legislators and the US Mint know this? Seems senseless producing a circulation quality coin that is only available to collectors. As a collector I want coins that were actually meant for circulation. I know they can be spent but that is different than being issued to collectors only. In that case would they ever be worth anything of the bulk of them are in uncirculated condition? And with all the changing designs there also seems to be an unfamiliarity among consumers.
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Valued Member
United States
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If $100 bills went away, couldn't the drug trade switch to precious metal, or even €500 Euro bills?
You could argue that it would increase fakes, but I wouldn't be surprised if a fair number of drug deals involve counterfeit $100 bills.
Edited by Pauldog 03/14/2019 3:13 pm
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: If coin collectors are aware of the only reason dollar coins don't work then why doesn't our legislators and the US Mint know this? They do, but Lobbyists can convince them to throw reason into the bin.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If all coins and currency were stopped and only plastic credit or debit cards were used, imagine what drug dealers would have to do. They would really find it difficult to do business. Criminals that rob for cash too would be out of work. Yes there are still crimes done with plastic cards but lots of crimes would not be so easy. And like I said. I get money back for using my cards. And at the end of the Month when I pay for the usage of that card, I not only get money back but when it is transferred to a savings account, 50% more is added free. Why would I ever use cash again?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: And like I said. I get money back for using my cards. That is to encourage you to use the card. If cash disappears you would have to use the card so why pay an incentive? If cash goes away I think "cash back" will as well. About the only time a dollar coin made sense in this country was from 1840 to 1850. The value ration of metal to money was right, and the coin would have been preferable to the questionable paper dollars in circulation. (which would you insist back in change, the heavy dollar coin that was worth a dollar, of the light paper dollar that mighT only be accepted at 70 cents the next place you tried to spend it, or might not be accepted at all. Remember at that time every time you tried to spend paper money the merchant has to look up each note in a book to see how much to discount it if it was even acceptable at all.)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: That is to encourage you to use the card. And while you may get 1% cash back, the merchant has to pay at least double that in transaction fees. The merchant may save a little money in labor costs by not having to count cash in the first place but probably not as much as they lose in fees. Paying in cash to a small business I like feels like doing them an extra favor. Quote: If all coins and currency were stopped and only plastic credit or debit cards were used, imagine what drug dealers would have to do. They'd probably use those, apps, or some other digital service like the rest of us. The real question is what would poor/homeless people do, who don't or can't get a bank account in the first place? Or when you lose your wallet/phone and have no way to pay for anything until they're replaced? Or if there's a disaster and all electronic services are down completely? Cash will, and must, always have a place.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: If cash disappears you would have to use the card so why pay an incentive? So that you give them your business instead of go with a competitor. You would still have multiple choices of what card company to use and they would have to compete for the business
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: If all coins and currency were stopped and only plastic credit or debit cards were used, imagine what drug dealers would have to do. They would really find it difficult to do business. Criminals that rob for cash too would be out of work. Yes there are still crimes done with plastic cards but lots of crimes would not be so easy. And like I said. I get money back for using my cards. And at the end of the Month when I pay for the usage of that card, I not only get money back but when it is transferred to a savings account, 50% more is added free. Why would I ever use cash again? I use credit cards also to get 1.5% cash back, though I still use cash for small purchases. I think that the transition to a cashless society will lead to a decline in coin collecting if it has not already. There's just less of an emotional connection because people, young people in particular, are not using cash as much. This is the same thing that has happened with stamp collecting. Inexpensive long distance and email have virtually eliminated people getting personal letters in the mail. This is definitely progress, but the emotional connection with stamps is going away because of it. The biggest potential problem that I see with a cashless society is that it will allow the government to easily confiscate wealth when we lose the ability to pay the interest on our national debt. It's much easier for politicians to take the earnings of people than it is to reduce spending. Back to small dollars, one of my cheap entertainments is to give SBA dollars to cashiers for small purchases. Many have never even seen a SBA dollar. They usually just stand there and stare like I'm an idiot for not having given them enough change. Often, they'll even repeat the total. I then tell them how much I gave them. If they don't get it at that point, I explain that the SBA dollar isn't a quarter. Most laugh and some are surprised, but nobody has ever gotten mad or argued.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I never use those dollar coins. However, I seldom use cash of any kind anymore. I really don't know why everyone doesn't use plastic cards. Stores charge the same if cash or plastic. I get money back when using plastic, not cash. Why carry something heavier than one plastic card? Some just have different reasons. Personally, I use a card maybe six times a year. I just value my privacy, no one needs to track my purchases, it's none of their business. I do get cash discounts especially for local contractors (I have property which needs maintainance from time to time) so I get the 1.5 % back or better. My wife on the other hand has run up six-figure debt because of out of control card spending. Also several instances of dealing with card fraud in which she is protected by the bank but it's stil a pita. I am helping her with that debt and her switching to cash works tremendously.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Cash forces you to live within your means. I'm trying to ween off so much reliance on plastic. Unless a person pays off the balance in full each month the cashback is moot. And privacy is a real concern, not only tracked purchases but with those darn store loyalty cards stores force you to sign up to in order to get the advertised prices.
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