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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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Fantastic! We've not seen much from Spain here recently.

1677 Poland Ort (18 groschen). Sentimental favorite from my LCS, 2 for $10 nearly 25 yrs ago, just as the collecting bug was re-igniting.
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Nice variety of coins! Boy,Leopold looks like he could scare the paint off the wall.
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1677 Austria (Hall) 3 Kreuzer
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Leopold (and other Hapsburg royals) suffered from a congenital facial malformation called mandibular prognathism (severe underbite). His cousin, Charles II of Spain, shown on @keith's Spanish coin, had such a severe case that he had trouble with speech and eating (the Barcelona engraver understated this attribute in his portrait of Charles). Here is a more realistic representation of Charles https://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotv...c031ae9f1ef9
It's wonderful for the numismatic world that so many Austrian/Hapsburg coins from this era have survived in such great condition, because the designs are lovely even if Leopold's mug is not.
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Here is the Hogmouth on my 6 Kreuzer from Austria (Vienna mint) dated 1677 AD:

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1676-1677 Papal States 1 piastra.
Without this pope's support, Jan III Sobieski (who has been on my Polish coins the last 10 days) would not have had the resources to win the battle against the Ottoman Empire in Vienna. Year 1 of his papacy lasted from Sept. 1676 to Sept. 1677
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1676-SP Wurttemburg-Oels 3 Kreuzer

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@keith, you have had a run of amazing coins in slabs! Keep 'em coming!

Here is a 1 Heller from the German Bishopric of Augsburg dated 1676 AD:

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1676 -- Free City of Brunswick, 4 pfennig:

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1675 -- Kingdom of England, 1 farthing:

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1675 -- Silesia / Duchy of Liegnitz-Brieg, 3 kreuzer:

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1675 English sixpence:
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It's amazing how far we've come! Beautiful pieces everyone!
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Lovely coins everyone.

I see we are in the golden era of the flowing unparted 1660s - 1670s hippy hair poodle do wigges (Thats how 17th century English spelled the word).

That Wurtemberg guy has a real nice blow wave Timotei flowing locks thing going on there and that Leopold the hogmouth dude ruled a long time too.

And we are far back enough into the 1600s for the lace collars to make a come back - its full 1666 meets 1966 fashion here!
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@pepactonius, nice example of a rareley seen coin!
Here is the biggest hair in my collection, same guy as @keith's spectacular coin, larger denomination and lower grade.
1675 Duchy of Oels (Wurttemberg-Oels), 15 Kreuzer (won in a December auction, currently in transit).

I have been puzzled by the name of this place, that combines a location in central Germany with one that is now in Polish Silesia, over 300 miles to the northeast. So, here is the history...
The Duchy of Oels (an area around the city of Olesnica in current southwest Poland) was created in 1313, and originally ruled by a line of Piast (Polish) nobles.
From 1329, the Dukes of Oels began pledging allegiance to the King of Bohemia, (as did most of thje other small principalities of Silesia). When the Piast line of dukes died out in the 1490s, the crown of the Duchy of Oels was claimed by Duke Henry of Munsterberg (another nearby, small Silesian principality which was ruled by the Bohemian house of Podebrady), and became known as the Duchy of Munsterberg-Oels.
When, in turn, the Munsterberg (Bohemian) line died out with the death of Duke Karl Friedrich in 1647, the crown of the duchy of Oels was claimed by Sylvius Nimrod of Wurttemberg, who had just married the daughter of Karl Friedrich, the deceased Munsterberg duke. After some negotiations, the crown of the Duchy of Oels passed to this branch of the house of Wurttemberg, and the duchy became known as Wurttemberg-Oels, even though Wurttemberg was being ruled by a member of a different branch of the family (different from Munsterberg-Oels, where the same person actually ruled ruled both places).
Confusing to say the least, but this coin would have circulated in Oels (Olesnica) in Silesia, not Wurttemberg in Germany.

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