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How Far Back Can We Go? Sixth Edition! Ended At 1380 Waiting On 1379

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we are pretty tightly clustered geographically today

...and you know I'm not gonna do much to spread us out for about the next 40 years
So it's good to see @mikev's nice thaler!

For 1615, I have this Poland 3 kreuzer from the Krakow mint, a short-lived type.
Thanks to "How Far Back" teamwork, We've now covered these 10 denominations in the reign of Sigismund III: 2 and 3 denars, solidus (=6 denar or 1/3 groschen), 1, 3, 6 and 18 groschen, 1/24 thaler (dreipolker/poltorak = 1.5 groschen), 3 kreuzer (= 9/5 groschen) and thaler.
Maybe that's some kind of record?
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I'm not exactly spreading the cluster for today either

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Riga under Poland, Sigismund III, solidus, 1615.

I apologize for the blurriness, never got around to re-photographing that coin. (Those pics are from 2013...)

Not a lot left to post for me after this point, and many of those don't even have pics (I really should get around to finding and photographing my 16th century coins... also 17th, 18th, and 19th century for that matter).

On the subject of Polish denominations: which denominations from Sigismund III's reign we hadn't posted? (Under a thaler, anyway, doubt anyone here has anything larger.) IIRC there's a 1 denar; anything else?
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which denominations from Sigismund III's reign we hadn't posted?

Correct about the denar. I have one lined up for 1605.
There is also a 1/2 groat. It's a scarce 1 year type https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces96661.html

And nice solidus!

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For 1615, I have this Poland 3 kreuzer from the Krakow mint
Nice coin
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Here is a Double Tournois from France dated 1615 AD:

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I'll disturb the even distribution for today with one more Sigismund coin, an 18 groschen form the Gdansk mint. As I mentioned in the 1626 post, this is the earliest bust style of the 4 used on this type between 1608-1626.
Now, no more Siggy portraits from me for a whole week

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1614 Poland 1/24 thaler (= 1.5 groschen) Bydgoszcz

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1614 N-B Hungarian Denar under King Matthias II. Without magnification it looks like a pale deep red toning but it is just copper that came to the surface.

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This Hungarian Denar is similar to @ed's, but without that copper.


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Also I noticed the date appears in a different place on those denars, and the madonna faces in different directions. SO, what's up with that?

1613 Poland 1 groschen, Krakow mint, my first in a string of this type (I think some of the other regulars have this type too).

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Yes also mine is KB not NB. Beyond that, I think it is best to let our resident expert in medieval Hungarian coins (@eddiediz) talk about the differences.

For today, I have a Liard from the French City of Chateau-Renaud dated 1613 AD:

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Really attractive French coppers!

1612 Poland 1 groschen Krakow mint.
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Lost track of time. 1613 Hungarian denar

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Off to work. I'll post the 1612 later.
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Really attractive French coppers!
Other than the intentional scratches across the King's face.

For today, I have a 1/24 Thaler from the German State of Saxony dated 1612 AD:

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