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Stocks Crater, And Gold Silver Follow Suit. What The...?

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 Posted 03/09/2020  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add punman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If only one know what the high point was. Can't really say until it falls and then the high point is gone.
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 Posted 03/09/2020  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@punman, even the best of the best Wall St. traders cannot predict the absolute highs/lows, its nearly impossible. But a couple things you can do is.... 1) take profits by selling at predetermined intervals & 2) watch the chart for a Double Top. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/doubletop.asp

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 Posted 03/09/2020  5:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears silver is a dead "investment".
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors...
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 Posted 03/09/2020  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Stocks may loose up to half of their value from their peak, before buyers are forced to move back in.
When that happens, the COVID-19 will be a memory. Perhaps as much as a year long wait for that.
When both happen together, expect a powerful stock market recovery, over perhaps a three year period; that is what happened before.
Same for PM's.

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Remember, if you are in a crater, there are only upsides, no matter which way you look.
Everybody wants cash right now, just to survive.
Not Warren Buffett;
he got into cash some time ago, as he saw the market rising faster than the underlying value of the shares.
He was waiting for a trigger to set off a market correction. He got two: an oil price crash, and COVID-19.
He is now looking for good companies, with good future business prospects, with a good management team, and a solid income potential.
He is going to make a killing, over about 3 or 4 years.
Just like he did after 2008.
Again.

Perhaps 5% of your investments should be in artwork, PM's , or numismatics - whatever is your thing.
That leaves 95% of your investment resources, with which to take market advantage of.

Buy in gloom, sell in doom.
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03/10/2020 06:55 am
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 Posted 03/11/2020  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin rejector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
World Health Organization declares that the coronavirus is a pandemic.... https://www.marketwatch.com/story/w...c-2020-03-11

Congressional doctor predicts 70-150 million U.S. coronavirus cases.... https://www.axios.com/congressional...5c22c53.html

IMO, $GLD will make a breakout to the upside & $SLV will go along for the ride.

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 Posted 03/13/2020  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BGLI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Right now I can buy gold- plenty of supply. What I cant buy is toilet paper and paper towels!!
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 Posted 03/13/2020  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Right now I can buy gold- plenty of supply. What I cant buy is toilet paper and paper towels!!
You're correct, you're paying the "paper" price for both!
When I listen to LED ZEPPELIN...so do my neighbors...
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 Posted 03/13/2020  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sold a significant amount of gold in late february
Why?
Cash deposit rates are near zero.

What happened to the cash I received?
Went into my daughter's mortgage.
$5,000 x 4% for 20 years = a profit of $4,000, with no tax to pay.
Plus the proportion of the difference between a rent payment and a mortgage payment, that a $5,000 lump sum can make.
That's how my father helped me, and I am following up on that (obligation? privilege?) to my daughter.
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03/13/2020 11:36 pm
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 Posted 03/14/2020  12:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A worthy investment sel!
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 Posted 03/15/2020  2:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And gold drops a little bit. It's a good time to sell if you need the money. If you don't it's just another day.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 03/16/2020  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lakeman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why does it seem that Silver is tanking? Gold still seems to be holding it's own.... I thought the two of them would move upwards together in this type of environment..
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 Posted 03/16/2020  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jskirwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been following metals since 1980 and have never seen anything like this.
Silver down $2 this morning.
Gold down $55.
It's a buying opportunity for those who still have cash, but are there any sellers? I know I wouldn't sell at these prices, especially since it's likely things will bounce back after the virus calms down.

But apparently the idea of the metals being a safe haven during a crisis is all BS. Glad I bought more ammo.
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 Posted 03/16/2020  11:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if people are selling silver to buy necessities?

Because like it or not, in countries like the US a silver dollar is still only has a dollars purchase power at the store.

Could it be that in places in Asia where they are heavily impacted that people can't work, and payment is still in local currency?

Or could it be that the market recognizes that China will NOT be buying bulk silver anytime soon? Nor the Indians buying gold for their festivals?
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 Posted 03/16/2020  12:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elimist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have logged back into CCF after being inactive for years to try to get insight on the silver situation. I have sat on my stockpile for years with no real attachment to it besides the possible potential of actually profiting from it after experiencing a recession like when prices skyrocketing in the early 2010's. So it is frustrating to see the PM prices just plummet, but on the other hand I guess there's nothing I can do besides just keep having it locked up like I have been doing. I don't really want to buy more because it hasn't been worthwhile for me so far, but maybe the surge will come later after the markets calm down and people are looking to securely invest again.

In a perfect world I was hoping PMs go way up, stocks go way down. I liquidate and buy into the market at a sale. I'll keep waiting I guess.
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 Posted 03/16/2020  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Same sort of thing happened after 08/09.
Sit back take a breath and think for a minute .....
Maybe just maybe the precious metals got way over priced
and are coming back to reality . The sky is not falling but
It is easy to envision gold back to 600 to 700
and silver below 10.
As long as you can spend dollars for food and gas and toilet paper
We are good.
I did the same as SEL and sold all my personal holdings and that money
Helped pay off the Mortgage . We are frikking literally laughing all the way to the Bank .
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