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Pillar of the Community
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With dirt still on the coin inside the slab...........Hmmmmmmm!?!?!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
5192 Posts |
Great find! I say VF 30 Details.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
I'm still at VF Details. I personally would have gone with an acetone soak before sending it off, get rid of the dirt. Heckuva find 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4471 Posts |
I am seeing some environmental damage to the eagles wing and the scratches on the shield would most likely get the coin a VF Details or net graded F15.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6396 Posts |
The in-slab photos are less flattering. I'd be at F-15 detail, with ED plus damage (scrapes on the eagle and scratches on and in front of Liberty).
I'd be disappointed that NGC apparently wasn't willing to attempt any conservation. You'd think some improvement would be possible.
Still a wonderful find, one of the best ever on CCF!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
9796 Posts |
I'll stay with my original guess, I find my gut feeling off the bat is usually better than when I try and second guess myself VF25/30 Details.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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Rest in Peace
United States
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How about revealing the grade now that we are all scratching our heads wondering what the grade is ? 
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: Well, we got word back from NGC on the grading. It is genuine and in transit on the way home. Excellent! 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4680 Posts |
Quote: How about revealing the grade now that we are all scratching our heads wondering what the grade is ?  I'm sure we're all anxiously waiting 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: Unfortunately, NGC did not feel conservation was needed, so there's still dirt on the backside. How can that happen with a coin of that rarity?  Quote: How about revealing the grade now that we are all scratching our heads I'm in, lets get the show on the road....... 
Edited by Rothery 02/08/2021 3:43 pm
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New Member
 United States
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NGC didn't grade it as high as everyone guessing here, which is why I was asking before sharing the grade. They gave it VG details. Unfortunately Panzaldi has to eat his shorts now... So now I wonder why it may have gotten that and if I should ask for a regrade. I've been staring at coins from this era with similar grades and mine is just as good if not better in details, but is mine losing that much because of the scratches? What do you all think? 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I disagree with VG. I just checked my Bowers grading manual and for VG half of the reverse motto letters must be worn away (not in this case), most of the feathers must be worn away (not in this case), most obverse hair strands must be gone (not in this case), etc.
Edited by NumisEd 02/08/2021 8:27 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
18456 Posts |
Are you up to going for a few more bucks and crossing it over to PCGS ? 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4471 Posts |
NGC is out to lunch on the grade for this coin. A Fine details would be acceptable, but a VG details is not acceptable. I also do not understand why they would not conserve the coin to eliminate the dig find dirt. Crack it out then soak in acetone and rinse in distilled water to rid of the find dirt. Do not wipe the coin. Send the coin to PCGS or sell raw. Selling the coin in that holder would cost you money.
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