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Newbie Question: What Are You Looking For When You Photograph A Coin?

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 Posted 12/08/2021  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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It is showing two "luster bars" in an almost X-shaped pattern.From that pattern I can tell that there were two primary light sources, one at 11:30, and one at 2:00.


While there were 2 lights sources they aren't what you think. I don't use any direct lighting. All my pictures use a DSLR aimed at the coin. The indirect light sources are windows and the light is the sun.
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 Posted 12/08/2021  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mjkzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, did the HK 10 dollars coin again.

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Now, let me try URL link, it keeps getting messed up

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Success, looks like I can not put URL and IMG together . . . anyways, back to topic, the larger image reveals much more details and a little bit less harsh shadows.
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 Posted 12/08/2021  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mjkzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is pretty lustrous

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Larger Image, check out details.
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Showing luster is critically important in depicting the quality of an uncirculated coin, but it's much less important for a circulated coin (anything under AU). In circulated coins, showing surface detail and accurate color are much more important. So axial lighting for a mint state business strike coin may not be the best option.
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 Posted 12/09/2021  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mjkzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Zurie.

Now, combined with others' posts, I now know what business strike is (circulated issues) Still learning.
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I think I got what luster is, thanks to @coinphotofan It is that radial shiny/dark pattern.

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I'll add a coin that has uncirculated cartwheel luster made out of zinc(!) and say I angled the shot just right to try to get the light good. This was also taken on my phone camera

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FYI, this is a Bulgaria 1917 10 stotinki.
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right, @mrwhatisit, I finally got it

And here is 5x magnification of those patterns causing luster. But not all coins will have it, even new, I guess due to different strike process.

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And here is 5x magnification of those patterns causing luster. But not all coins will have it, even new, I guess due to different strike process.


Proof coins do not have such flow lines. The field should be mirror like. (But they occasionally do have a few flow lines, if the working dies are not polished in time.) For business strikes, the "proof-like" coins, i.e., those pressed with newly polished dies, have very few flow lines. As the dies start to wear, more flow lines will show up and luster bands will develop. The initial luster bands are narrow and bright. Coins with such luster bands are appealing to collectors. With more wear on the dies, flow lines become longer and wider, and the reflected luster bands become dull and wide. So it is important to use a narrow light source at a low angle, to show luster bands properly.
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thanks @coinphotofan.
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Here is a picture of flow lines on a Chinese PROOF coin. A retired expert from the mint admitted that they had cut the corner in preparing the dies for this coin.

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thanks for another example. I think I now have a good grasp about what luster is

I do not think all coins have luster, for example, this one does not seem to have it, it does have anti-counterfeit marks.

Another questions from a newbie like me is if details matter much? Here is a 2x image of Year of Dog coin, lots of details, does it matter to coin people?

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