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My Sis Was Told This Was A Counterfeit, By A Coin Shop, But Can Anyone Help (1804 Dollar)

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 Posted 01/31/2022  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin9328492 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's an "1804 dollar". It's not very likely.
You are very unlikely to own an 1804 dollar that is genuine.
Looks fake to me.
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 Posted 01/31/2022  5:01 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chinese junk !
Laughable piece of pot metal .
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 Posted 01/31/2022  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCB420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess a lil homework would've told me, had I bothered to even look up the value or rarity! But that's why I'm here! I didn't remember my sis even getting the thing, my mother mentioned it to me, then I text sis for pics, put em straight on here, without looking up anything
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I guess a lil homework would've told me


Yes, but we are here to help you learn. It's all good.
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but what part of the coin was screaming fake to you?

Just from the obverse, the denticals are wrong, the letter font is wrong, the star size is wrong, the date size and font is wrong, and the bust size is too small.

This is what a genuine one looks like

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 Posted 02/01/2022  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CCB420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea I can see what you're saying putting em side by side by side. She lives over 17 hours from here, probably, my first time to see it was in those pics, never had it in my hands! Guess I never realized the work counterfeiters have put into making fakes, not to mention some somewhat specialized equipment they must have, to produce a fake! I'm assuming this isn't something one could do with a cpl hand tools and some scrap metal, over the weekend in his garage?
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My sis is gonna be the one upset!! He didn't give that one to me!


Maybe your grandfather gave your sister other coins you don't know about...
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Guess I never realized the work counterfeiters have put into making fakes
Welcome to the modern world of coin collecting and counterfeits. I think it would be difficult to find any coin from any year that the Chinese have not faked. Your coin costs less than $2 on a website we're not allowed to mention. There are 14 separate listings for this 1804 over there right now. You have to be very careful these days.
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"Hey Frank, we got another fake 1804 Silver Dollar. Do you want this one? Mike grabbed the last one..."
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And I've already asked and that was only one he's given her, he probably knew it wasn't real, which explains why it wasn't in his safety deposit box! Plus as far as I know, I'm the only grandkid he took to see it and I've asked 2 of his 3 kids and they'd never seen the contents! Haven't asked the oldest kid! I was too young to realize what I was looking at but can remember being in awe
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Which makes sense, everyone knows I'm his fav
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Guess I never realized the work counterfeiters have put into making fakes, not to mention some somewhat specialized equipment they must have, to produce a fake! I'm assuming this isn't something one could do with a cpl hand tools and some scrap metal, over the weekend in his garage?

Here's a photo from one of the Chinese counterfeiting rings...pretty sophisticated stuff, indeed!

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