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The Florin Noodle "30 x Bulk Australian Florins, all King George V 1911 - 1936 - 10 oz silver" Coins laid flat before looking at the dates (I squinted)  All the Canberras together. The coins arrived in a parcel packet and sandwiched between cardboard in a plastic bag. I weighed them and got 332.50grams against a full mint weight expected of 339.30 - 339.60 grams. This means the coins weigh around 98.2% of their full weight, about average for coins in good condition. That is 307.60 grams of silver or about 10.254 grams of silver per coin. All of the coins were as expected, King George V and none were fake or majorly damaged, 5 were stained and one Canberra Florin was plugged from being in a necklace. The condition as expected was overall not very good - but given these coins were notoriously heavily used for the type - this is about what you would expect and some may even say they are a better than average lot. The range of dates was relatively pleasing with 13 of the 24 standard dates represented and 1 of the 2 commems (Rare coins like the 1934/35 and 1932 were of course not expected in a bulk lot). It was also pleasing that not all the coins were 1934 to 1936 as well and only 2 coins dated from the 1930s. There was a higher than expected number of Canberra Florins (10 out of 30) but the average grade of these (VF) was much higher than the rest (Good). Conditionwise, most of the coins would grade aGood or Good, a few were Fair and none were poor, all had at least a partial date. The best included a Fine 1934 and almost Fine 1931. The 1928 coin would also grade VG or slightly better and a couple of the earlier 1920s coins would be close to VG. The oldest coin was a 1912 and coins before 1917 are generally quite scarce, so to have 6 is good. 1919, 1921, 1923 and 1927 Plain are also good dates to encounter in a bulk lot, even if the examples were "mediocre". The best part of this lot, was the price just an average of $11 per coin which is melt. A standard VG KGV Florin is at least $20 here and a few of these coins are worth over melt!
Edited by Princetane 07/21/2022 05:51 am
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Full resultsDATES1912 x 2 1916 x 1 1917 x 3 (1 close to VG) 1919 x 1 (Very worn) 1921 x 1 1922 x 3 (1 is VG) 1923 x 1 (Decent "Good" example) 1925 x 3 1926 x 1 1927 x 1 (Standard coin) 1927 x 10 (Canberra Florins) 1928 x 1 (VG+) 1931 x 1 (aFine) 1934 x 1 (Fine)  This image shows the coins sorted in order of date (1912s at top left) The Canberras were a pleasing group with me grading them at 2 at EF or near EF (See Photo), 2 at high VF, 4 at low VF and 2 in the Fine region)  I know Canberra's are annoyingly common, but surely ones that nice are worth more than bulk silver price. The Reverses have all the pearls on the King's Crown sharp and clear. These coins have lustre too. Overall, a fun exercise but an expensive one, I doubt too many big bags of bulk Aussie Florins not full of worn 1950s and other half silver ones are out there. Also there must be a lot of these earlies which are so worn, they are dateless.
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Quote: Yes, that is fine. Do you want some clearer images? Coinanthebarb, yeah mate, if you could sharpen the focus that would be magic. The comparison that I have done is not clear and the sharper focus would show a lot. But I'm down with covid at the moment and the head is doing thumpy backflips so I'm off to bed and I'll post a topic in the morning...or you could start a new one.... "Is this a genuine 34-35 MC" and I could join in. Off to bed.... later 
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Quote: "30 x Bulk Australian Florins, all King George V 1911 - 1936 - 10 oz silver" Princetaine...first glance at your florins. ......... You've done real well! But as above, I'm off to bed, head is splitting. I'll look forward to reviewing them all in the morning at some stage. Cheers TT 
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Quote: Coinanthebarb, yeah mate, if you could sharpen the focus that would be magic. Yeah no worries, I'll take some clearer photos tomorrow. 
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Nice acquisitions, Prince!  Quote: I know someone here doesn't think these are good thing I think it is a decent looking set. 
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Quote: "30 x Bulk Australian Florins, all King George V 1911 - 1936 - 10 oz silver" The 31 and 34 look very nice. And I don't think the Canberra's are annoying....those two are fairly sharp. Curiously have you found many die cracks in the Canberra florins? I have three here all afflicted with cracks. And as for costing melt, that is an excellent score. I took a bag of very worn but dateable florins and shillings to an Adelaide dealer to be appraised as part of my fathers estate, to see if they were worth holding onto, and I mentioned to him that they were probably just melt value. He gave me that look that says ' what, are you crazy?' and he just said "I'd give you more than melt, most are from the 1910's" Thanks for sharing.
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Quote: Curiously have you found many die cracks in the Canberra florins? I have three here all afflicted with cracks. I have several with significant Die cracks.I will throw up some Pics. when I have them out again. I read in the 1960's that the Mint had longevity/durability issues with the early/original Dies and reduced Die pressure which resulted in fine detail such as the 'steps' disappearing.
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I will have a look for those cracks, where is the main places to find them?
And please it's Princetane not Princetaine. I have honestly spent my whole life stopping people calling me Taine or spelling my name that way. Its an English language cop out of my traditional Maori name "Tane" and pronunced "Tah - nay" - Good story about the 1910s florins though.
I got these from a group that are usually very expensive, but every now and then they let things go very cheap. I was very glad as most people charge like a wounded bull over Sterling silver coins, but for some reason Australian coins and stamps are very cheap here in New Zealand.
You would also really love my main Florin collection in my Aussie coin thread. My main 1931 is EF and 1934 gVF with lustre and I have a 1932 and the Melbourne coin.
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Quote: I have several with significant Die cracks.I will throw up some Pics. when I have them out again. Basil, no pressure to throw some of yours up.  Quote: I read in the 1960's that the Mint had longevity/durability issues with the early/original Dies and reduced Die pressure which resulted in fine detail such as the 'steps' disappearing That is interesting. Would that maybe explain the weakness in a lot of the strikes of the 50's pennies?
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Quote: I will have a look for those cracks, where is the main places to find them? I was a bit off track before. Only one of the Parliment House has die cracks, another has a rippled edge to the rim, the others I was thinking of are 1901-1951 Fed Florins. (brain fog!) An excerpt from my datasheet.  Quote: And please it's Princetane not Princetaine. Got it  Where are you based in NZ? I lived there for 4 years (79-83) in Tauranga. I loved the place, but never got back there. Maybe a holiday one day if I can afford an interpreter Quote: You would also really love my main Florin collection in my Aussie coin thread. If I can't find it I'll be back for the link.
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One of the stamp groups I am in wanted my opinion on some coins in their next auction, so I went over and priced it up (Lots of modern sets from the 1970s and Diana related tatt) but a few better coins. My reward was a couple of coins I needed. A well worn 1935 Florin (VG) and a 1928 Penny (gFine)   Quite worn, but a decent coin for free! 1935 also had quite a low mintage of just 900k coins.   1928 Penny (Sorry about dark photo, we have had stormy rain for the past 6 weeks and being winter, daylight is limited when the sun is only 30 degrees above the horizon and its cloud from 200 feet up to 40,000 feet). Again the best coins are free ones and it means I have all the Florins before 1939 except the rare 1914 and 1915H and 1915 ones.
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It's always good to get a little something for your efforts. A nice reward Quote: Quite worn, but a decent coin for free! 1935 also had quite a low mintage of just 900k coin It's still a nice coin, agreed! And the penny looks fairly tidy as well. If you're wanting examples of the 1914H and 1915H, I have a spare of each that you are welcome to. But they are very worn. Let me know.
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As one somebody note yes predemecials Holey dollar and dump have be demonetised (yet you would still have to pay GST on them) Here a commerative dollar and dump with $1 And a 25 cent print on them   1927 florin crack are usually thought the lettering/writing or aleast it starts there.
Edited by ryurazu 07/28/2022 08:23 am
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Very nice! 
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