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I Think It Is But I Need To Confirm. 1966 P DDO 001

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 Posted 08/25/2023  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NY Islander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Outstanding coin. Great find.
"We are all flawed, some MD and some PMD."
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 Posted 08/26/2023  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kurdlezuit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CoinH. I don't have another example to send back with it unfortunately. I tried calling them at 9:00 yesterday morning, but they've already reached their call back limit at that point, and weren't taking any more calls for the day. I will have to try again first thing Monday. Hopefully I will get some answers.
Did you have to pay for re-holdering when you sent it back?
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Thanks NY
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 Posted 08/26/2023  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure. But you would think if it's their mistake they would do it for free.
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 Posted 08/27/2023  02:29 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS is a mess right now. Got a nickel back with easily identifiable DDR on it. They didn't put it on the label. Just awful how much work it takes, and sometimes money, to get variety coins slabbed right from them. In the end, the value added of a PCGS slab is worth it, but would be nice if they actually got them right the first time. Calling them seems to put you in a call back list, which fills up given how many errors they make, so call early in the morning to hope to actually get on the list for a call back.

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 Posted 08/27/2023  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kurdlezuit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"PCGS is a mess right now."
That doesn't give me much confidence. Especially since I sent off another variety for them to slab earlier this month. Hopefully it goes well on that one.
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 Posted 08/29/2023  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kurdlezuit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I finally got ahold of a PCGS rep. She said for security reasons they can't give out any information of anyone else account, even if it's just to see if they submitted it for variety or not.
So I guess I will just have to send it back to them to get it re-slabbed unfortunately.
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 Posted 08/29/2023  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CherryPicker1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The truth is that in 99% of cases PCGS will do nothing to resolve their mistake when it comes to variety attribution. I've had multiple orders sent to them in the past few months that contained many coins that had very obvious varieties, and none were given the proper attributions. When I emailed them I got the same copy-and-paste response each time about how the final decisions are at the discretion of their graders. Quality control is extremely low at PCGS right now, so if you send in coins for variety attribution, be ready to resubmit them multiple times before they're given the proper labels.
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 Posted 08/29/2023  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kurdlezuit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is NGC having the same issue, or is this solely a PCGS issue?
Thanks Cherrypicker
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 Posted 08/29/2023  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also to clarify, I mean send side by sides of the variety, not a physical extra. I hope that helps.

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 Posted 08/29/2023  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kurdlezuit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That does help. I will do that.
Thanks again CH.
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 Posted 08/30/2023  07:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Search4Collector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
would it have been a good idea to send in to ANNACS 1st , get it attributed, and then once graded in an ANNACS holder, cross it over? Great find BTW!!! unfortunate they dropped the ball
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 Posted 08/30/2023  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kurdlezuit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well yes, if it turns into having to send the same coin multiple times to get the variety attribution, that will take all the premium out out of the coin and give it to them. It would be better to send it to ANACS only since from what I've heard is better with variety coins.
The premium is better with PCGS, is why I sent it there.
I can't say for sure it was PCGS's fault though.
My local coin dealer unfortunately is the one I believe dropped the ball on this one. The reason I think that is due to he had never seen anyone bring in a real DDO before and didn't believe this was one.
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 Posted 08/30/2023  12:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kurdlezuit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent off a 1970 s FS-107 TDO at the beginning of this month to PCGS. I think I'll wait to see what comes of that one first before I decide what to do with the 1966.
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 Posted 08/30/2023  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oof, I missed the whole thing with PCGS in my last comment and just thought it was a new post about the coin. That is unacceptable. PCGS is an absolute parasite on this hobby, and it infuriates me that in the current landscape of coin collecting, so much of the coin's value is determined by whether or not they print an attribution number on the label. This is a no-doubter, and the fact that they missed it just shows that their graders are completely incompetent.
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