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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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Quote: They will have to pry windows 7 out of my cold dead hands. I don't want any newer crap that won't support my software that I use every day.  I normally access the Internet with a Chromebook, but for writing, photo editing and creating PowerPoint presentations for my work, I use my old desktop PC which normally uses Windows 7 (though I can fire it up ro use Windows XP if I need to use my slide scanner, which only works with XP!)
Edited by NumisRob 06/16/2023 5:54 pm
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 United States
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I'm just glad that Coop is back (sort of.) well trying to be back..
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ouch! Windows 7 is too old, upgrade your computer or buy a new one 
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Mine works perfectly fine. If I get a new one, I'd have to get a ton of new software that is on a subscription basis. Thanks Adobe for starting that crap. Plus the Dreamweaver I'd have to get is not only subscription, it no longer supports asp.
So like I said, you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.
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are you saying that the forums are running of of the Win 7 platform?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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No, he's saying the desktop he uses for site creation is Win7.
Dreamweaver is an interesting case.
It used to be quite popular to design and create websites that used the .asp format. Asp (ASP.NET) was very popular in the Microsoft eco-system (IIS - Internet Information Server) as a way to create pages that went beyond dumb HTML.
IIS still exists. It's well integrated with the modern Microsoft servers that Bobby uses to support CCF. It's reasonably performant and there is something to be said for the tool you know vs. the latest bright shiny.
All of us in IT have this problem. Why do people still use Windows Notepad? Because - warts and all - we know how to beat it up to meet our needs and the muscle memory says "Go with what you know, it's not about the tool you use, but the results you get".
As the web became more sophisticated, the cracks in asp appeared. It doesn't handle the modern fluid web design paradigms very well. And so the tools moved on. As Bobby says, the newer version of Dreamweaver doesn't even support asp.
It's a hard decision - spend the effort to learn an entirely new way of designing and building websites (your workflow). And lets face it, rebuilding a major site is not a small problem, nor a simple one. Large companies with big development staffs have screwed it up royally (Stack's Bowers anyone?)
Or stick with an outdated tool that has a workflow you are comfortable with and works well enough for the purpose...
Since it's about the results and not the bright shiny tool, we know what we pick.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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BTW, have you noticed the difference between a 1990s site like CCF and a 2010ish site like CT?
CT is pretty and scales better on a mobile device CCF is information-rich and dense
Btw, the latest "trend" - medium grey text on white backgrounds is STUPID and hard to read for older people with vision problems.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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 United States
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Quote: My Commodore 64 still fires up... So do my Commodore 128 and Amiga 500, both of which I use when I want to relax.  I am currently going through my library of BASIC C64 programs that were downloaded from BBSs and Q-Link (before they wiped it out to make room to expand AOL). My goal is to get them to run in 128 mode (like I did after I got the C128, for all the programs I had previously written for the C64). It usually requires translating PEEK/POKE lines into an equivalent BASIC 7 command or using my two programmer's reference guides to translate the locations. Of course, I obsess on the ones that kinda work... a few line changes will get it going, but it is not pretty, so I spend way too much time on aesthetics... But I digress. 
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Forum Dad
 United States
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I remember my floppy drive for my Commodore 64 weighing about 35 pounds.
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Yup... they are HEAVY! It is basically its own computer with 6502 processor, ROM, RAM, and a full power supply. I am afraid of floppy disk failure, so in addition to backups to a second disk, I use a DOS program called 1581 Commander to copy (image) my disks to D81 files (they work in emulators like VICE). Yes, I have the 1581 drive that uses 3.5 diskettes in addition to the 1571 and 1541 drives (the 1581 designers were smart enough to give it an external PS, they did the same with the 1541-II). Yes, I still have an extra machine that can run DOS (16-bit) programs and has a working 3.5" floppy drive. In case you were wondering, it is running Windows 2000. No, it is not on the internet. And everyone was giving you guff for still using Win7. 
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Forum Dad
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: My Commodore 64 still fires up. Can't say the same for my TRS-80 with 4K RAM. Very Interesting ijn1944, also Jbuck and bobby131313. I owned an Apple IIE as my first main computer which I still use games and programs from but mostly now using AppleWin emulator for PC instead of needing the original hardware. Heres a comparison if you only had c64 and never an apple https://history-computer.com/apple-...ommodore-64/ For commodore 64 I currently only have a C64 mini, actually have an extra also I may part with https://www.techradar.com/reviews/the-c64-mini and then use emulators if I want to play other games although like Jbuck would be fun to again use the original hardware. With video games emulators unlike the computer ones, I find they dont always equal the performance of playing on the original machine with some of them and so many collectors like me will many times prefer to play with real carts (or a flashcart maybe) and real hardware for that reason. I still have all the original magazines like the entire run of softalk in print from 1980-1984, and a digital copy of them also so I can read without ruining them or if a friend wants to see. I was actually selling game print ads from the old original mags to collectors with the duplicate issues.
Edited by datadragon 06/19/2023 2:55 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Company I work at required Windows 10 or higher, on the first day IT switched I request and installed Open Shell to changed the interface to act like Windows 7.
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 United States
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Yes, the emulators are fun and I do enjoy them, but I do prefer my OG hardware.  For the record, the first computer I touched was in junior high (or middle school, depending on where you live)... the Bell+Howell version of the Apple ][. I was in the computer club and that was my first run at BASIC. The first one I owned was the Sinclair ZX-81 that I convinced my parents to order me from the UK. A year later it was released in the US as the Timex-Sinclair 1000 at half the price with twice the ram (1KB to 2KB). A year after that I convinced my parents to get me the C64 +1541.  I still have the ZX-81 and all the cassette tapes I stored programs on, but it is not fully functional. 
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the first 'computer I had to work (deal) with was the 8088 while in the NAVY, then I upgraded to the Vic-20 then the C64 after that. Then it was a real computer with a whopinly HUGE hard drive of 20 MB and 512K memory.
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