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Why Do Canadians Hate NGC?

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 Posted 05/06/2009  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve kuznicki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 05/07/2009  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why did I move to Canada? Opportunity. Alberta exports more oil to the US than Saudi Arabia (although few Americans know that, why would the press want you to know?).

At the risk of being OT, that's a very interesting factoid I did not realize.
In regards to differences between Canadians and Americans, I think there's some truth there...although it can be easily overstated. I see similar habits in BC as in California. The role of the media could also be overstated in both countries, and Canada is not immune from biases there--simple human nature.

Anyway...back to coins. I really like Canada, but I wish I could find more coin dealers up there. There's only a handful in the Vancouver/Victoria area--as compared to Seattle.
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 Posted 05/07/2009  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Road_Apples to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin dealers for what type of coins?
Calgary has Albern Coins- one of the most respected dealers anywhere:
"self edit removing web link to adhere to the rules for newbies...however doing a web search can find them anyway."

They do mostly modern and currency conversions, but have a few ancient coins etc.
It depends on what you're looking for.
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05/07/2009 11:46 pm
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 Posted 05/07/2009  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve kuznicki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello DV,

Check to see if there are periodic major coin shows in and around Vancouver. I am sure that there are several a year. There are a lot more "vest pocket" dealers in Canada than the US and that is where you can acquaint yourself with them. You will find that they will find you the best material. I guess they know where to "beat the bushes".

There is a major coin auctioneer in Vancouver named Michael Walsh and even he does not have a "shop" per se. He may have e just retired, but you might look him up on-line. He can point you to the right people in the area (and he is an honest guy. Coin (sales) distribution networks are here, they are just different than the "corner shop" in most US cities.

I have been collecting here for 5 years, after collecting for 40 years in the US. It is MUCH more fun here. It is like the US 30 years ago. But.....you will find the US Canadian differences seem greater as you are here longer.

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 Posted 05/08/2009  12:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"It is MUCH more fun here."

Perhaps. But collecting Canadian coins in the US is quite good (if you are knowledgeable) because few US dealers know much about Canadian material. For most of them, whatever Canadian material they get is a result of what comes with buying a US collection.
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 Posted 05/08/2009  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gawd0wns to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't hate NGC, or any TPG for that matter...I have never sent a coin out to an American TPG. Why? The shipping rates make it unreasonable for the American coins I own. It feels like I'm dropping 25% or more of the coins total value, not including any hidden costs.... Customs might decide to apply the law as rigidly as possible and force you to get an import permit, if it is required (Under UNESCO, which Canada and the U.S. are signatory countries, coins more than 100 years old are considered cultural property, so you'd need an import permit. I don't even know how to get one, or how much it costs).

I've never owned any really valuable coins which need valuation, so it has not bothered me at all.

I guess I'm just cheap and reading into things too much.
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05/08/2009 11:57 am
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 Posted 05/08/2009  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hhbkiddo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I honestly believe you are not correct with the UNESCO thing, as it does not include valid currency. to the best of my knowledge, Canadas money is all still very valid.
and customs does not collect anything , except the GST and PST where applicable, and only if the value is over $ 50.
and, if you make a list of what you send and keep a record of what you shipped to a TPG, their invoice will only be the subject to GST and PST, NO duties. Nothing else.
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