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Nice additions! I love the old photo, and that 4 is a nice reminder of all the different permutations on that digit through the ages (i.e. when rotated only 45 degrees, you get the version seen in 15th the century) Confirming that the two shields of arms on the reverse of my coin are the Boncompagni family arms (with a cardinal's hat on top, as spotted by Bacchus2) on the left, as Cardinal Ignazio Boncompagni was the papal legate to Bologna, and the city arms of Bologna on right:  We might see those Boncompagni arms on the obverse of a coin in the future, since Pope Gregory XIII (1572-1585) was from this family. |
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Another nice one, Bacchus2.  Errers and Varietys.
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Thanks for those additional details on the shields tdziemia
Very interesting and great to see the link between coin and family heritage being made so clearly.
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very nice adds. |
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I only have one coin from Clement XIII and I haven't dug into the meaning behind the heraldry yet - but it's 1 Baiocco from 1758  |
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excellent coin Bacc |
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Another nice coin! I don;t have anything from either of the Clements Clement XIII 1758-1769 of Clement XIV 1769-1774).
Clement XIII was born Carlo della Torre di Rezzonico. I can see two towers in that coat of arms, which are probably the della Torre branch of that family. There were della Torres who ruled as patriarchs of Aquilea in the 14th century, but I don't know if it's the same family. Maybe the other quadrants are the di Rezzonico part?
Tomorrow we will move back a bit earlier in the 18th century.
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This week show your coins of: Clement XIII (1758-1769) Benedict XIV (1740-1758) Clement XII (1730-1740) We are in the middle of a nearly 100 year stretch when 8 popes chose only the names Benedict, Clement and Innocent. I will start with this modest undated quattrino sturck in Ravenna under Benedict XIV:  Copyright InAsta Interesting that there were still undated types in the mid-18th century, and this coin doesn't even have a legend helping much to identify it. The reverse legend S A P RAV is for San Apollinaris of Ravenna, (of course the obverse design is a bit of a giveaway for Papal States, but doesn;t explicity tell which ruler). Edited by tdziemia
03/09/2025 5:37 pm
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A very neat coin. I have one of those too - but the reverse of mine is in terrible state. It's great to see a well preserved one that shows the church building in better detail. The version I have seems to have more decoration surrounding the rather fancy shield on the obverse. I'm not sure if the differences are down to design differences or just striking issues  |
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very nice coins tdz and Bacc.
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Nice examples! |
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I'm not sure if the differences are down to design differences or just striking issues Judging by how many of these 18th century papal coppers are in the market, it might be both (i.e. die varieties and the dies used till exhaustion). I do think the designs are different on both sides. Your obverse has the branches on either side of the arms, and mine has that thick asymmetric frame around them. Reverse, yours appears to have the saint facing forward, mine with his head turned upward and left. The church is probably intended to be San Apollinare in Classe:  Edited by tdziemia
03/09/2025 5:55 pm
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Thanks - I hadn't appreciated that the building might be a specific church rather than a generic one. Today I'll post up this example of a 1746 1/2 Baiocco minted in Ferrara. The shield which splits the date at the bottom of the reverse belongs to Legate Cardinal Crescenzi. My picture isn't great here it was tricky to photograph. It may just be my limited set of observations but the coins from this mint do seem to be more ornate than those from Rome - possibly a bit of civic pride or rivalry seeping in.  |
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Glad to be able to finally post a coin or two. Here is a Grosso issued under Clement XII in 1739:   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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