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 Posted 02/01/2026  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This could get political.
Don't bash Canada if you do not have facts .
A few Truckers were debanked and yes
Trudeau was way out of line .
Other than that , we have a fantastic place
to call home. No where near the issues that
some other unmentioned places have .
As to the Silver play mentioned , I would be out .
Holding premium quality dividend paying stocks
is where I choose to invest .
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 Posted 02/01/2026  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Darn, I thought this thread was about the cars with the best suspension to buy in order to transport large quantities of precious metals...
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 Posted 02/01/2026  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol, it could easily have been about an armored car performance comparison.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 02/02/2026  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Pacificoin, not bashing Canada at all. I love Canada. That said, as an investor, you cannot ignore risk that may exist if you are in the US with Canada.

You have to weigh the risks of the current US administration and its actions as well. Smart investors are not investing currently the way they did under the previous administration. There are government risks in my opinion.
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02/02/2026 09:38 am
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 Posted 02/02/2026  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This morning, silver was up 5% and PSLV was down 6-7%. At this writing silver is flat but PSLV is down 11%. Silver demand remains weak as sellers are willing to accept ever lowe prices to exit their positions. Downside risk persists.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 02/02/2026  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it may have bottomed. Silver is still about flat. PSLV down about 6%.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 02/02/2026  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silver up 2% and PSLV down less than 2%. Almost back to normal now and the sellers look to have mostly cleared the building at the moment. Was able to add a small amount to my long when it was down 8%.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 02/03/2026  03:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As of last week, after last Friday's 25.5% drop in the value of silver, their portfolio looked as follows:

Net Asset Value per Share (NAV): $29.15 [-$10.41, -26.31%]
Market Price of PSLV at 1/30/26 end of day: $26.41 [-$9.88, -27.23%]
Shares of PSLV Outstanding: 637,772,285 [0, 0%]
Premium/Discount to NAV: -9.41% [-1.14, -12.11%]
Total Net Asset Value: $18.59 Billion [-$6.64 billion, -26.32%]
Total Oz. of Silver Held: 217,670,661 [0, 0%]
Market Value of Silver held by Trust: $18,545,409,725 [-$6,638,563,357, -26.36%]
Closing price of Silver on 1/30/26: $85.25 [-$29.18, 25.50%]
Amount of Silver claimed by 1 share of PSLV: 0.3413 oz of silver. [0, 0%]
Expenses charged: 0.57% of assets per year.

As of today's (2/2/2026) 2.36% drop in the value of silver, the PSLV portfolio looked as follows:

Net Asset Value per Share (NAV): $27.13 [-$2.02, -6.93%]
Market Price of PSLV at 2/2/26 end of day: $25.80 [-$0.61, -2.31%]
Shares of PSLV Outstanding: 634,335,053 [-3,437,232, 0.54%]
Premium/Discount to NAV: -4.90% [-4.51, -47.93%]
Total Net Asset Value: $17.16 Billion [-$1.43 billion, -7.69%]
Total Oz. of Silver Held: 216,529,661 [1,141,000, 0.52%]
Market Value of Silver held by Trust: $17,164,847,561 [$1,380,562,164, -7.44%]
Closing price of Silver on 2/2/26: $78.385 [-$6.865, -8.05%]
Amount of Silver claimed by 1 share of PSLV: 0.3413 oz of silver. [0, 0%]
Expenses charged: 0.57% of assets per year.

The NAV discount halved today as buyers came in to close the gap in the afternoon.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 02/03/2026  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got in on Friday, out today with a 10%+ gain
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 02/03/2026  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add psuman08 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats ns! Wish we would see 10 days of up a % rather than a 10% up day.
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 Posted 02/03/2026  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, @psuman08. One of the advantages of this product is that you can get out with minimal effort. Physical silver, I would have had to drive it out somewhere, lug the silver, wait in line, haggle over the counter over the price and the premium. I think I'm not old school enough for all that.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 02/12/2026  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Back into PSLV at $24.87. Took my over 10% discount today to reestablish my position. Like that the market discount is always reflected right away with a little magnification. PSLV was down 10% when silver was down 8%.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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 Posted 02/13/2026  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sold this morning on the rip higher. Nice overnight trade and profit.

Congrats to all silver longs.

Positive CPI print increases the chances of a rate cut and further debases the dollar, making dollar-denominated assets go up.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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02/13/2026 08:46 am
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 Posted 02/13/2026  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The dynamic with decreased inflation boosting silver is counter-intuitive. Normally the presence of inflation causes metals to go up, but this was a special case because of the overhang of lowering interest rates when inflation is elevated above the target policy rate.

Beyond today, if rates continue getting cut, this further expands the money supply and should be inflationary. But with the national debt approaching $39 trillion, lower rates may be needed to prevent the debt interest rate service from eating up this increasingly unmanageable portion of the gov't budget.

Unfortunately, our nation is squeezed between a rock and a hard place. Interest cuts are needed to pay the interest on our national debt, but this leads to currency depreciation making our dollar increasingly worth less.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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 Posted 02/15/2026  07:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sbr to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The previous post talking about the debt problem applies to most of the free world . This time I think its different . When someone somewhere actually tries to deal with debt I might consider selling some PM's but until then I will keep buying to stay at 10 to 15%.
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