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Poorly Minted Example Of An 1865 Three Cent Nickel

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I have your coin previously documented in my reference.


70Shark, thanks for that. very interesting. let me know if you want to see other/better pix of anything on my coin. happy to provide them.


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Love the coin MrPink. Die clashes, Cuds, and die cracks are everything I enjoy about classic coins. I collect old copper and Bust Half Dollars. The only thing missing from your coin is a die rotation.


i have an 1812 capped bust half with a rotated die.


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This is the first time the mint (tried) to strike 75-25 Copper-Nickel. The Flying Eagle / Indian Heads (until partway through 1864) were 88-12.


very interesting, I didn't know any of that.
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MrPink. If you have time, no rush, please post picture of the denticles below the date and I can copy for my reference book. Thanks -Dan
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sure thing. i'll get on that in the next 24 hours.
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70Shark, here you go:

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Thank you MrPink. Now I'm questioning whether it is a MPD or just a Cud in a crack. I will need keep looking for more examples. Again, Thanks.
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I see the crack running through the possible 'ball' of the '5'. I need to see an early die state


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yeah, I'm wondering about that little anomaly, too. an earlier die state pic would be helpful.

in the picture that you provided above, which you posted @ 9:02pm on 2/8, is that your coin or a coin belonging to someone else? I was comparing the date on that coin to the date on my coin. the 8 on my coin has those tiny die chips between the upper & lower loops of the 8 on the outside of it.

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that's from my coin. your coin photo's 8:

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i don't see the same features.

i see these same type of die chips between the loops of 8s on Morgan dollars frequently enough.

I'm going to have to pick my coin out again and compare die cracks.

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Yes, I see that sometimes in this series. Maybe filled with debris? Let me know if same coin. Here is another image with the coin rotated to change lighting.



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i have to dig my coin out and study the die cracks again, plus I need to look at mine to check for those file marks near Liberty's hairline.

there are a few question marks in my head surrounding some of the die cracks, the strikethrough, the date... your coin pix & my coin pix seem to show many of the same features-- some of the die cracks, the reverse rim Cuds, some of the clash marks, the obverse top rim features-- and it's possible that my coin is a later die state for that obverse, maybe the reverse, too, as you pointed out the lack of reverse clashing on your coin whereas there appears to be just 1 set of clash marks on mine.. I need to examine the die scratches around the ribbon bow and look for a reverse die crack located below the one Cud at about the 2 o'clock position running from the denticles to the second from the top wreath berry. I have my homework cut out for me.
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well, after some time looking at my coin & yours I believe we each have a coin that is minted from the same dies. the die cracks are exactly the same. that larger die gouge in the wreath bow is the same. however, my coin is missing the file marks by Liberty's hairline and my coin has that strikethrough on the reverse.
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...and, I was looking at some recent pictures I had nabbed of the die cracks, this one is at the end of UNITED:

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i see the T is broken at the top...
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Per Ultimate Guide to Three Cent Nickels-Allan Gifford
"Hubbing stresses often damaged the fragile raised letters on the face of over used or improperly hardened working hubs. The thinnest letter surfaces were often partially or fully broken from the hub face or worn to a thin knife edge and impressed into working dies as such. The top of the "D" in "UNITED" was most vulnerable. As a result, particularly in higher production years, entire die varieties are observed with a missing or "open" or partially missing or "faint" top of "D" in "UNITED". "
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yeah, we have that. we also have a thick die scratch/gouge in the curl of hair to the lower right of the ear.

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