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1918-D LWC, Back From NGC, Graded!!

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 Posted 04/27/2010  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeauxSzyslak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know if this will help you with regards to the cartwheeling, I shot a quick video and posted it to photobucket.

http://s349.photobucket.com/albums/...DSCN0324.flv
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 Posted 04/27/2010  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This cheese is going to stand alone and say:

I see wear on the coin
I see bag marks on the coin
Shoot me for saying MS 60-61
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 Posted 04/27/2010  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hehehehe....good try with video! I think I saw it cartwheel a couple times. I might try my hand at a video too.
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 Posted 04/27/2010  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is my 1913 woody I posted before. It cartwheels with E-W tilting. Sorry, no macro mode in video for my camera, but you can definately see the cartwheel effect.

http://badthad.com/coin/cartwheel.wmv
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 Posted 04/27/2010  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeauxSzyslak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
j_h_s, you say MS 60 or 61 like it's a bad thing, for $12 dollars, I could do a lot worse! The education I'm getting on this coin is worth much more than that, easily!

BT, I don't think your link to the video is working... I'd like to see it.
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 Posted 04/27/2010  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try saving the file and then open it with Quicktime.
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 Posted 04/27/2010  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I converted to WMV, try it now....should be no need to save it.
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 Posted 04/27/2010  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cwb1877 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! $12

You hit a home run with that one in my opinion.
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 Posted 04/27/2010  7:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I missed that! For $12 you STOLE that coin!
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 Posted 04/27/2010  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeauxSzyslak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool BT, thanks!

Yeah, $12... what I can't understand is he had it marked as AU-55, and it was still 12 bucks!
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 Posted 04/27/2010  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea, can't be that price! Here's one of my 18-D's. It's been cleaned, but I bought it for the detail. These are so tough to find well-struck.


1918-D--LWC,--Back-From-NGC,-Graded!!

1918-D--LWC,--Back-From-NGC,-Graded!!
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 Posted 04/29/2010  07:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
meaux; I didnt mean my grade was a bad thing...I was standing on the firing line grading it lower than others. It's nice coin and, umm...............$12 !! wow....even at MS60, the ultra conservative numismedia has it priced at 61 or so dollars.....pcgs...(cough splutter) 80 - 100 dollars.

I love that other 18D, too.....details.

fantastic, really.
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 Posted 04/29/2010  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
you say MS 60 or 61 like it's a bad thing


It isn't a 60 or 61 coin. It is either AU (and some great folks have already told you they think it is MS) or MS62-63 range. An MS60 coin is pretty beat up or has bad eye appeal.

( edit, breaking out ANA grading standards book )

Quote:
MS-61 ...the surface may have clusters of large and small contact marks throughout....scuff marks may appear as unattractive patches on large areas....eay appeal is somewhat unattractive. Copper pieces will be dull, dark, and possibly spotted.

MS-60 Unattractive, dull, or washed-out...may be many large detracting contact marks, or damage spots...eye appeal is very poor.


An AU58 (or even AU58) coin will typically have eye appeal that will blow an MS60-62 coin out of the water.
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 Posted 04/29/2010  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Steve is making a very good point that is often misunderstood by newer collectors. You can take a coin, lets say in MS-65 condition, and put ever so slight wear marks on the hairline and you get AU-58. It will be a well struck coin with strong eye appeal. It will in fact be a much better looking coin than a MS-60/61. I know collectors that specialize in this type of coin. Costs less and tends to be very attractive, aka slider.
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 Posted 04/29/2010  1:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea, very often an AU coin smokes an MS60-62 coin. A prime example is my 1918-S rainbow coin, which I think NGC completely missed the grade but that's another story, it's an NGC "AU-58" that will put shame to an MS-64.
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