Yeeeaaah I probably shouldn't have gone straight for the knife. Kinda wishing I could take that one back. Oh well. I did spend some time researching the dies of the 1893-P and am 100% sure it is a VAM 4. So I guess the best thing to Do would be to send it into anac to get it authenticated. I feel it's going to be a tough coin to sell with the shady history and mm area damage.
Quote: I'm assuming the solvent worked but how did you get so much damage to the MM area ?
Well, the only real tool I had available was an xacto knife. It took a bit of scrapping to dislodge the S and it seemed to have an area around the mm that was added. like a flat base. I'm assuming to match the coins surface and help the mm stick. I'm also thinking they "textured" the original surface to help form the bond.
Anyway, now I'm starting to question the date. I would hate to sell this and have that be altered as well. Should I soak the date in acetone? Does the 1893-P have any identifying die markers to help authenticate it being a true 1893-P?
The solvent worked but not without a little scrapping. Unfortunately, it left the area of the mm pretty scratched up. Perhaps someone will still be interested in purchasing it. after inspecting the rest of the coin more thoroughly I did notice that it has doubling on the right stars. VAM world labels it as a VAM 4. I guess that would be worth noting to assure that it is indeed an 1893-P. It's just had a rough life lol.
Fortunately, I am not out any money with this coin. It was a part of my grandfathers collection I inherited.
When you mention the diagnostic die mark is that for a 1893-P? I know the die mark for the 1893-S is not there. That was one of the first things my local coin dealer checked.
So this coin has been to PCGS and came back in the dreaded body bag. It was certified as an altered 1893 (s added) So what to do with it? Is there a jeweler that will remove the S for me? I would like to sell it and the 1893 isn't exactly without value. did the schmo that altered it completely ruin it?
I have here an 1895-s Morgan. It has a very obvious VAM of the horizontal S (VAM 3? Or 4?) what would the grade be for this coin? Is it worth encapsulating to increase value for selling?
I've run into several fake Indian head penny's so far in my inherited collection. Example being the huge let down of a fake 1877. *sniff sniff*
This 1903 seems to be in great shape. It's bright, appears uncirculated.maybe cleaned though? Can anyone tell anything about this coin? As far as fake or real? And if so is it a proof? What would be its grade?
Thanks for any help.
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No., unfortunately he seemed to have never gotten a 1895 o. Unless it was sold prior to me. He was born in 1917. He was obsessed with coin collecting. The man's collection was massive. After his death in 1992 the collection was split 3 ways between my mom; her brother and sister. I remember going through my moms third with her. We spent the better part of a day looking through penny and Roosevelt dimes. My mom threw in the towel and had an appraiser come. I believe he bought them all for $3000. Who knows for sure what all was in there.
My plan is to sell coins here and there when we are in need. But try to sit on them for awhile for the values to increase. I have sent in a dozen rare Morgan's to PCGS. All but 2 have come back detailed haha.
Oh for sure. I have heard not to ever clean a coin even before I inherited this collection. It baffles me that my aunt did know not to clean them. She was informed enough to know and subsequently clean every single key date coin. If the coin was worth over $100 she cleaned it. It's enough to make me feel sick. But it's the past and she was kind enough to give them to me. I can't complain too much I guess.
Matthew - ok I'll post the 1901 s next. That may be the one with the s/s. I have two that look to be a/s
I sold the 1895 on eBay a few weeks ago. That one was so polished the first buyer returned it. Next buyer seemed happy with it. He did get it for $482 and the coin was au/unc
Well that's exactly what my 1893-s ended up being. It was a 1893-P with an added S. I'm debating on taking it to a jeweler to have the mint mark removed.