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New Member
Australia
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My biggest sting was on ebay and someone offering me a second seller thing. "Hey, I've got 2 of these really rare silver coins you just missed, blah blah, do you want the other one cheap. Inc postage.. ? you bet.. It arrived and my first taste of being ripped off hard with a coin. as a coin collector its pretty gut wrenching. Not so much being ripped off, but being wrong. No image to compare, no recourse with ebay. I guess I can always scan a few 100 yuan and sell them for $12 to undercut the market, and get back at them that way/ fair is fair.. but the impact isn't as great. and I dont have that much ink and my printer would go pfrrrt.. |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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We don't have a big brother up here. We have a big readheaded sister instead  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
7096 Posts |
Don't dwell on it philski, I recon most of us have been dudded a one stage.
It's just a learning curve and once you know what to look out for you should be right.
As long as you haven't forked out thousands for a 10 cent fake.
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New Member
Australia
40 Posts |
Your very right. I'm only really saying it so others don't get caught. I quite like my fakes now because I get to see and feel what a modern fake looks like. That underweight gun metal grey. If anyone is new to a specific coin or mintage or year or set. Please read all you can about it first. Get a real coin and know it, Look at it up close and really study it. its weight, its size, its characteristics. If you know someone that has one, borrow it and sleep with it, goodness me, love the thing! its important... We also have amazing internet that can transport any of us to any mint "just about" and know in seconds what we are looking at. and buy from dealers you can trust, and if need be trace. But even after all that, I guess we do get caught sometimes. and I wont dwell on it. I even got a giggle out of it..
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7840 Posts |
I like red-heads.  The few "fake" coins that I had seen were not magnetic (not sure what the metal was), but the color was still off a skosh, and the details. Edited by oih82w8
12/23/2011 09:08 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Castration was another thing used to try and stop people skimping on the silver content of coins minted. I'm not aware that castration was used but amputation of hands was done. Quote:
Bring it back in I recon If they do I wouldn't want to work at the mint considering that all of the "silver" coins no longer have ANY silver.  Quote:
I like red-heads. Me too! And I do have a black cabinet of contemporary counterfeits. Edited by Conder101
12/23/2011 11:14 am
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Rest in Peace
 United States
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 , Philski! Quote:
even coins worthless to numis copied. Silly counterfeiters Not necessarily. A beginning counterfooter will practice on stuff not likely to attract attention. Screw up on a $1000 fake, and you may get caught before you can perfect your "trade". |
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
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See how they like to get fined hundreds of thousands, per coin Use the old method. Melt the fakes and bottoms up. |
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New Member
United States
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I have some self-slabbed NIC brand "graded" coins in MS-70 I will send you for your "black" collection for free! LOL
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I was wondering what a black cabinet was, my first guess was the hobby's equivalent to a black mamba, meaning it'll bite you if you give it the light of day, like showing the Feds your 10 1933 Double Eagles... I'm sure I have an unacknowledged fake or two, having collected for so long. Still looking to find my first Henning nickel that would make a great start to a cabinet!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1801 Posts |
I have a couple of trays full of counterfeits, they are common in the coin series I collect. I keep the "contemporary" ones that were made to circulate along with the real ones. I have no use for the cheap chinese garbage but Trout gave me a good idea. Wonder how a chinese Morgan dollar looks after a clean shot with an M91/30 Mosin Nagant? |
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New Member
United States
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I made the joke about the "self-slabbed" coins by NIC(?) I received from IOFFER.com Maybe I should start a new kind of black cabinet collection with these rip-off specimens. They would sit nicely next to my cleaned AU 1879 "MS-67" Morgan "graded" by WCG LOL. At least I only paid for the whole collection it was in...
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
17884 Posts |
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Maybe I should start a new kind of black cabinet collection with these rip-off specimens. Sounds like my slab reference collection.) |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It is essential that you keep all 'black' coins.
Why?
They are the most effective way to educate yourself.
It is much harder to spot a fake, unless you have seen a lot of them.
For this reason, it is good to keep a reference collection of them.
By all means buy them, PROVIDED they are sold as fakes just don't bother to waste your time and money on the obvious ones.
Morally, is is a great shame that we have to maintain a collection of such rubbish. It is a type of 'insurance' that I intensely dislike having to pay, because it means that dishonest people can at least recover some money for their efforts.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3692 Posts |
I'll bet they make awesome decoys. Everyone should have one. ;)
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