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Gold US $2 1/2 Coins With Chinese Marking

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 Posted 03/29/2012  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fran to your friends list
when I compress it so I can put it up here it makes it small and harder to see.
One is above the dot between 1/2 and A at the end of America.
There is one just above the /
there is one above the 1 in 1/2
and there is one above the dot near you in United.

I will try again

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 Posted 03/29/2012  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
If the reverse is from a 1907, the reverse looks strange. Believe there should be more space between the eagle and the "2 1/2"

And those marks you point out are not on real versions of this coin.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  12:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fran to your friends list
aas you can see from the first pic and this one it says 1907.
Does the side with the 1907 look right or maybe they are are all knockoffs.

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 Posted 03/30/2012  12:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
we would need a close-up/better picture of 1907 obverse, but the date looks off. The 1 looks slanted, the 9 & 0 look wider, and the 7 seems off.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scropper to your friends list
I'd say with those markings these were made specifically for jewelry. Well done making the photos easier to see.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fran to your friends list
a close up off the 1907 side. thanks for your help on this.

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 Posted 03/30/2012  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fran to your friends list
they are 18mm in diamter wabout how thick are they - these ones are 1.85mm thick.
Only one of the sizx coins has the chinese characters on it though. All the others dont have them.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  01:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list
, Fran!

I've never seen anything like this, so my SWAG is that the coins are just replicas made for jewelry, with the jeweler's hallmarks. I'm basing this on the mention of Chinese and that the markings appear to be raised, not incuse like chopmarks. I've modified the pix for better visibility.

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Do the mounting rings appear to be part of the coins? If so, then it's surely jewelry replicas. I ask, because they all look like one piece to me.

Oddly, real or fake, as long as the gold content is good, the value would be the same.

BTW carat (ct) is a measurement of weight, used on diamonds and other stones. Karat (K) is a measurement of purity of gold, with 22K being 22/24ths pure.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  01:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
not sure if the variations I see in the date numerals are true variations or signify a fake.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fran to your friends list
the gold content is definately good. my husband is a manufacturing jeweller. he thinks the links are formed with the piece as there is no colour differcne between the links and where they join to the coins (usually the gold solder is "slightly" different.
Thanks for your help on this one.
Now in which section woudl I post about a 18ct gold coin it's not a denomination coin its 18ct its WInston Churchill and it weighs 55 gframs - under which section in the UK coins would I post something?
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 Posted 03/30/2012  03:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list
I think it might be a jewelry piece. The four characters are jing-nan?-jiang-shi, or 晶- 江e。 Jing shi means something like finely made jewelry while Nanjiang might be the city.

Can you take a better picture of the piece with macro mode (flower setting?) I'd like to know where the piece was made, or what "-jiang" it's actually from.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  05:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list
I agree that without better close up pictures I would be only guessing also, need that macro shooting close up!
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 Posted 03/30/2012  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add XavierOfGreen to your friends list
I agree with Bigfred in that the raised markings point towards it being a fake, but even if it is a fake it still would be worth about the same as a ex-jewlery 1907 via melt value, sometimes the fakes are actually worth more in melt value since they sometimes are of a higher purity gold than the .900 fineness the real ones are.
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 Posted 03/31/2012  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I don't know if "fake" would be the correct term for these as they were made for a specific purpose and have markings that differ from the original design that would differentiate them from the ones minted at the US Mint. I think maybe copy of the design for jewelery purposes may be a better term as these weren't made to either circulate nor fool collectors of coins, that is why they are clearly marked with the Chinese characters instead of leaving them off to make them look exactly like the original design
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 Posted 04/04/2012  03:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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Now in which section woudl I post about a 18ct gold coin it's not a denomination coin its 18ct its WInston Churchill and it weighs 55 gframs - under which section in the UK coins would I post something?


There's only one UK section:
http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...?FORUM_ID=36
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