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PCGS Graded Coin..lets See Who Agrees ..i Dont

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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:19 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Unfortunately, the seller is in Jacksonville, Florida, so I don't imagine they are interested in an ICCS cross-grade...

It works both ways with US grading companies - the old adage still applies, buy the coin, not the holder. I recently bought a 1926 Near 6, in a NGC VF-30 holder - I get the coin in hand, and it was a weak strike mint state coin. The coin is currently at ICCS, getting certified. Heck of a buy for $60.
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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
Again, I agree with you.

Your 1926 example, I believe, relates more to 'mistakes' made by grading companies.

Mistakes are out there and the seasoned coin veteran can do very well by spotting these.

I've got my share of great buys too.

But with the 1925 5c, I'm talking more about grading standards and philosophies.

I'm still standing pat on this one that PCGS has shown its true lower 'standards' with Canadian coins.
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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list
Whilst I know nothing of which issues are prone to weak strikes in Canadian coins, there is a heck of a lot of detail missing, especially on the obverse.

I would prefer to have a worn example with no lustre but near full details than a mint state coin which is so poorly struck.
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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
IMO you must grade these weak strikes in hand.The remaining lustre is the key,and can't readily be determined from photos.There is little actual wear on this coin,EF40-AU50.
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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LaureateBust to your friends list
SPP - If you wouldn't mind, I'd be interested to hear how your 1926 nickel comes back cross-graded from ICCS, and probably others would as well.
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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
SPP, you mean my 1926 you sent in.....LOL.........take a poke at the grade ICCS gave this one? I have hundreds I have purchased over the years from VF up to assist me when approaching this series. The coin is still in the ICCS flip sorry for the poor image.

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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
here ya go point made?

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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list
my initial reaction was weak strike 45
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 Posted 10/15/2012  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
one more

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 Posted 10/15/2012  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list
one more for fun.

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 Posted 10/15/2012  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chequer to your friends list
Not being a huge nickel collector, I thought VF 20 too. Glad to be learning about the series in this thread. Now, what's the grade on this last one?
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 Posted 10/15/2012  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
As an added point to this interesting thread,

I think many collectors will attest to the fact the KGV nickels are probably the most difficult series of coins to accurately and consistently grade.
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 Posted 10/16/2012  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fredor to your friends list
This really goes to show how the Sheldon Grading system needs to be burned to the ground.

It's just not logical to be able to have lower number grades be nicer than looking higher ones. I have a huge amount of AU coins that are far nicer than many other MS coins that I have.
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 Posted 10/16/2012  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bmxboy to your friends list
MS-62 :)

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 Posted 10/16/2012  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list
ok I will go out on a limb VF 30 ?/ but If I was grading it I would say VF at best
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