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1947ml 50 Cent - Grade Opinions

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 Posted 11/21/2013  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
It's interesting to see the frostiness at the highest points on the dollars and 50 cents of George VI. What is sometimes called die burn and definitely not wear..

Great MS63 piece ...and very desirable...Good job..!!

...and I wish that I had one like that...
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 Posted 11/21/2013  7:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list
Also MS-63 here!
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 Posted 11/21/2013  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gilles Rousseau to your friends list

Again, I must say that just as glad that none of you guy do grade for my coins

Maybes you go to the school of where Asyn's he go to

This coin has most obvious been to the circulation, no, and theres no way then that it is in the state it was mint, so no ms just the AU grade.


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 Posted 11/21/2013  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
MS 62 too many marks in the wrong places nice coin!
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 Posted 11/21/2013  9:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Gilles...That's OK...I don't want you to grade my coins either......


One day soon we'll find out who Gilles really is here.........


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 Posted 11/21/2013  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
DEVLEC, thanks for your comment about "die burn" for this era. I've been wondering about it, since I see it on several ICCS coins in my collection that are all MS62. It must take a lot of experience with these to decide what's wear and what isn't. Honestly this is probably the only raw coin I've gotten from "that auction site" where it exceeded my expectations.
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 Posted 11/21/2013  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
Gilles...I'm just trying to grade it as ICCS sees it.

That to me is the secret in this coin business.

Why try to grade any differently than the standard for Canadian coins?

May I respectively suggest if your grading opinion more often than not differs from ICCS, I advise you do an overhaul of your grading techniques and begin to learn how they grade.
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 Posted 11/22/2013  01:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gilles Rousseau to your friends list

to mr doubles eagle, some time you make the good sense, but I still think that in the long time it best if we all practiced to make up our own experience for the knowledge, 'cause like I think I pretty know much what how the ICCS guy he grade, but I still not sure its the exact proper way all the time, and I would not always trust that compare to mine own eye, eh

and to my good friend the mr DEVLEC, there are lots of guy on here that know who I am, but like I told you one of the time when I try to leave my emailed on here but they took it off, I would like some time to have conversation with you, 'cause you would have such a laugh you would probably fall over, but you will gonna have to send me msg cause I can't send the msg over your way, no

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 Posted 11/22/2013  09:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add osmiumblue to your friends list
This grading stuff is really confusing. How do one learn to grade? Any good books? Any (semi)formal institutions? How many major different school of thoughts (other than ICCS technical vs. PCGS eye-appeal, etc.) are there? I'm assuming it's definitely not via PCGS Photograde app., which just adds to the confusion.
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 Posted 11/22/2013  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheCoinHunter to your friends list
Osmiumblue. I think forums like these are helpful. There is enough material and graded examples online to reference. Also, I understand that the RCNA has a grading work shop once a year in Toronto. Start simple. In other words just start to grade coins G,VG,F,VF EF,AU,MS, with more focus on VF-AU. Not sure if anyone will agree but I find MS coins more difficult, even more so when trying to grade a 2012 penny from a photograph between an MS66 and MS67. I would even venture to say that the bottom of the scale can also be difficult. Last but not least, you have to look at coins. Lot's of them. Although I prefer and often defend the US TPGs (for numerous reasons), if you're going to do Canadian coins, then right now ICCS is the predominant standard in grading. As has been said here before, since most Canadian coins are graded by them, even if you don't agree, you might as well learn the intricacies. If all else fails, Gilles can grade for you.
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 Posted 11/22/2013  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add osmiumblue to your friends list
LOL, thank you, 'Hunter, I will check out RCNA's workshop.
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 Posted 11/22/2013  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Gilles, please. I hate to see this thread turn out like this. I only wanted grade opinions and all opinions are welcome to me. Your first post here sounded insulting towards other opinions. I don't see a reason to get into any argument over opinions based on photos. Go to ebay and search Canadian fifty cent coins for "1947 ICCS". You will see many graded MS that look a lot like this one.
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 Posted 11/22/2013  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
If it doesn't get back to the topic of grade opinions, this thread is history..quick!
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 Posted 11/22/2013  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I hate to see this thread turn out like this.

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If it doesn't get back to the topic of grade opinions, this thread is history..quick!
The unnecessary posts have been removed.

In order to prevent singling anyone out, everyone will be watched in this thread. Stay on topic, or enjoy a vacation. This includes mentioning any of the stuff that could not be removed without affecting the overall conversation flow.

There will be no more warnings.

Carry on.
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 Posted 11/22/2013  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list
Even with you going "nuclear" on this coin kbbpll, I am still confident it would still make MS62-63. Thanks for sharing.
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