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Thanks for all the answers. Looks like it might be either 1 reason or possibly multiple reasons. Also, I have taken a picture of some quarters I have laying around. They all seem to get a little flatter pressed as they get newer. Even the really worn 1945 has more depth than the MS60-ish (Minus the gunk on it) 1998 quarter.  Edited by ferrari
05/20/2018 8:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Well you see back then america actually cared about what its money looked like and now it is all about making as much as they can and not caring about them looking good.
This is just my own opinion.
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Canada
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Canada
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Just another reason why I don't collect modern coins.  |
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 United States
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to the Community! As stated above, lower relief allows for longer die life. It also allows for the machinery to run much faster since lower relief requires less time for the image to form. |
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United States
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The Mint saves money on energy by not pressing down so hard.  |
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United States
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Jbuck has it, longer die life and high speed presses You coins used to have a die life of 200 to 500 thousand, now it is closer to a million, Coining speed used to be 30 to 60 coins a minute or one to two per second. Today it's 750 coins per minute or 13 coins per second. When the metal only has .04 seconds to fill the die recesses you don't want the metal to have to move very far at all. Hence lower flatter relief.
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05/21/2018 10:09 pm
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United States
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Yup, minimize strike pressure, maximize product per second, maximize die life, minimize cost, it all adds up to some really crappy coins. Got 50 cents in change today - these two. The '65 has been kicking around for 53 years. Today I'm like, remember when they made quality coins? 53 more years from now, people will be like, remember when they made coins?   |
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 United States
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United States
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@kbbpll Quote:
Today I'm like, remember when they made quality coins? 53 more years from now, people will be like, remember when they made coins? Quite possible. Kinda makes me sad to think that might happen.  Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection: http://goccf.com/t/303507Edited by chafemasterj
05/22/2018 08:46 am
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Canada
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@ jbuck Quote:
As stated above, lower relief allows for longer die life. It also allows for the machinery to run much faster since lower relief requires less time for the image to form. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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You can think of lower relief allows time to strike pennies; billions of pennies that aren't needed and make (almost) all of us poorer every time they are made or used.
Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.
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Worth to point out is that this isn't just the US but a global trend. The first coins that come to mind to me are 1982 Swiss Franks. That year not only did they change all coins to medal orientation, they also notably decreased relief.
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Quote:
You can think of lower relief allows time to strike pennies; billions of pennies that aren't needed and make (almost) all of us poorer every time they are made or used. |
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United States
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One of the best examples of this is the Washington quarter and the hair difference between the older version of the design in the modern spaghetti hair. Run your finger over the head on one of the 50 State Quarters and it's almost flat -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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