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Which Is The Specimen 1937 Penny?

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 Posted 11/13/2023  04:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Allcoinage to your friends list
Coin on right, quality is much better on a spec coin.
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 Posted 11/13/2023  08:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Example on right: - Sharper definition of design features probably to either
double struck,
or
higher striking pressure.

I agree: satin finish for proofs of this period also a strong clue.
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 Posted 11/13/2023  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
My instinct is the one on the left, so I'll pick the one on the right.
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 Posted 11/13/2023  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list
My first thought. Mirror Sp on left Matte Sp on right
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 Posted 11/13/2023  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 11/13/2023  09:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list
I'm going with the one on the right.
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 Posted 11/13/2023  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cownick to your friends list
Are we allowed to see the other side?
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 Posted 11/13/2023  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list
I like the well formed rim on the right. The left leaved and branches look better on the left. This is the first time in my life I've said I'm on the left.
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 Posted 11/13/2023  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'll pick the one on the right.
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 Posted 11/14/2023  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Based only on the rim and the denticles, I say the one on the right
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 Posted 11/14/2023  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
May I add that the grading company is most likely PCGS, NGC or Anacs, all US companies and they have from time to time, misidentified Canadian coins.

Just a thought...................
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 Posted 11/15/2023  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sharks to your friends list
I suspect Everest is correct:
Quote:
My first thought. Mirror Sp on left Matte Sp on right

"George VI 1937 Mirror Specimen - George VI 1937 Matte Specimen Set" Could we see the obverses, please?
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11/15/2023 1:46 pm
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 Posted 11/16/2023  12:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add recollector to your friends list
only one is specimen, on the right.
graded by pcgs.
after hearing some explanations as to why I can understand better, but theres still a lot of confusion I see here. I'm still at a loss as to coins I see as ms or sp if what I'm seeing is really graded accurately or not, and not just because its a usa company grading. the price difference can be quite dramatic between ms and sp so its risky.

another problem I'm having is trying to tell the difference between pl and ms. I get that pl would have a more emphasized frostier features while the ms coin would be more uniformly lustrous. ill next post a 67 dollar and ask what you think it is, pl or ms.
both sides this time


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 Posted 11/16/2023  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list
Well, "pl" is somewhat iffy sometimes since, many times, proof dies were returned to the floor to strike circulating coins .... from what I understand from some of the past posts here. I have been told, by those who collect specimen strikes, that you see a measueable difference in the denticles and rims, with spec coins showing deeper, stronger strikes there.
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 Posted 11/16/2023  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sharks to your friends list
A description taken from the Calgary Coin Gallery is what I tend to understand and use for my collections..

Quote:
In 2011 the mint stopped striking intentionally superior quality coins for the standard Proof-like sets, rather using normal MS coins that bypassed some of the mint handling processes rolled coins go through. There no way to differentiate a coin from a set from a coin from a bank roll, so there is now only one category of MS (Mint state) for standard coins.

I have seen many, many "discussions" attempting to define proof-like sets and their make up (some specimen ,some ms, etc.).
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11/16/2023 4:38 pm
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