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1917-R Vittorio Emanuele III 2 Lire Quadriga Reverse

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 Posted 04/24/2025  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Thank you for your kind comments. Would love to see your example @HB. Coins that show the signs of a life well lived should not be the object of shame.
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THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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04/24/2025 11:06 pm
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 Posted 04/24/2025  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
Also, does it look like the reverse has bag toning from having been stored in a burlap sack?
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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04/24/2025 11:10 pm
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 Posted 04/24/2025  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list
Just here to say...wow what a lovely design...now I want one
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 Posted 04/24/2025  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list

Quote:
does it look like the reverse has bag toning from having been stored in a burlap sack

I was trying to figure out why the toning was patterned like that - that sounds like a reasonable explanation.
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 Posted 04/24/2025  11:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HondoB to your friends list

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Coins that show the signs of a life well lived should not be the object of shame.

Well, since you put it that way, here it is.
Italy 2 Lire 1915
1917-R-Vittorio-Emanuele-III-2-Lire-Quadriga-Reverse
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 Posted 04/24/2025  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
@HB, your coin has beautiful original patina and great remaining detail. Maybe an end roll coin with the obverse facing out?
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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 Posted 04/24/2025  11:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
I'l guess MS-65.
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 Posted 04/25/2025  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
At the height of trench fighting and chemical warfare during WWI, the figure of Italy appears with a sheathed sword, a shield in the left arm and the olive branch of peace in the outstretched right arm. It is a military image, but one that sees the value of peace while heavily armed and prepared. Love the crested helmet and heavy cape framing the exquisite armor. The ideal depicted on this coin was far from reality in 1917.

1917-R-Vittorio-Emanuele-III-2-Lire-Quadriga-Reverse
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
Edited by numismatic student
04/25/2025 12:30 am
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 Posted 04/25/2025  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Artwork on Italian coins of this period is excellent.
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 Posted 04/26/2025  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add angelo to your friends list
MS 63 Te head is weak and the fert on the reverse is weak, also. these coins are hard to grade because of the lack of detail on the hair.
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 Posted 05/13/2025  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list
This finally came in from a seller in Haifa, Israel. Very pleased. Let me know if you have further thoughts. Thanks!

1917-R-Vittorio-Emanuele-III-2-Lire-Quadriga-Reverse
1917-R-Vittorio-Emanuele-III-2-Lire-Quadriga-Reverse
1917-R-Vittorio-Emanuele-III-2-Lire-Quadriga-Reverse
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS
THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
My coin website:https://fairfaxcoins.com
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 Posted 05/13/2025  8:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list
Fantastic looking coin! The strike is superb. I think MS-63 is on the low side.
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 Posted 05/13/2025  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Nice coin!
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 Posted 05/20/2025  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
I agree, I would grade it higher also.
Can't really see anything that would bring the grade down that low.
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 Posted 07/03/2025  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Looks closer to an MS-64 to me. It's a beauty.
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