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1955 Lincoln Wheat Cent. Another What Is This?

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 Posted 09/10/2025  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Sorry. Feel better, Ray.
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Sorry. Feel better, Ray.


A little, but not quite back to before.
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Was not a question. I want you to feel better, Ray. No question mark.
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 Posted 09/10/2025  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Ray, what do you say I send you one of the "fantasy" pieces that I posted on this thread and you do your fantastic photography work with it. You can study it and then post it with your thoughts. You can keep it as a token of my appreciation for you and what you do. You obviously do not remember me helping you nail down some RPM's you had a tough time with on LCF. Just let me know, I still have your address somewhere, I'll find it. This would be the one I would send you.




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 Posted 09/10/2025  6:53 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
That's a pretty high point on the coin and a low point on the die, just sayin.
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 Posted 09/10/2025  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Check -makecents-'s eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add -makecents- to your friends list
Come on, Ray, this dumb ole hillbilly is trying to throw out an olive branch and stroke your ego a little.
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Hah! No worries.

Indeed I'd love to image such a coin, with 3D imaging and overlays.
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Ray, the main reason I got agitated with this earlier was what I said earlier in this thread, misinformation, I try my best to negate this.... I have no clue what the OP thinks of me at this point but want to give them solid, hardcore information, that they will probably not get elsewhere.
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I think the bottom line for this thread is that the OP's coin has PMD, so no mint errors or die errors or varieties happening on it. The MAD die clash discussion was enlightening, but that's not what we have here. The possibility is intriguing, and hopefully makes folks reading this thread look harder to find these coins and hopefully post them here for all the forumites to see. Some of the coins posted are extremely intriguing! I know I learned from this thread.
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Ray, what do you say I send you one of the "fantasy" pieces that I posted on this thread and you do your fantastic photography work with it. You can study it ane then post it with your thoughts. You can keep it as a token of my appreciation for you and what you do. You obviously do not remember me helping you nail down some RPM's you had a tough time with on LCF. Just let me know, I still have your address somewhere, I'll find it. This would be the one I would send you.


-makecents-, I received the Clashed Dime, thanks! I have not shot it yet but will do so hopefully next week when I get back from a road trip. I'm also planning on shooting lawest's 57 BIE again with a different technique, and may use that for your Dime as well...Ray
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thanks! I have not shot it yet but will do so hopefully next week when I get back from a road trip. I'm also planning on shooting lawest's 57 BIE again with a different technique, and may use that for your Dime as well...Ray


Should be interesting. Still would love to know how a clash can happen in a die void!
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-makecents-, I received the Clashed Dime, thanks! I have not shot it yet but will do so hopefully next week when I get back from a road trip
Cool! Enjoy your road trip and be careful!


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I'm also planning on shooting lawest's 57 BIE again with a different technique, and may use that for your Dime as well...Ray
Nice! I look forward to it, always enjoy your work.


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Still would love to know how a clash can happen in a die void!
Something just came to me about this. I will admit, I have not ran across this often but it does happen. Think about a rolled thick planchet, it does not happen often but it happens. I wonder if dies can occasionally be abnormal, not quite true, maybe thicker than normal in the center? Now we are bringing two things into play at the same time though, an abnormal die and a clash happening all at once, the odds are probably up there but then you have to think about the crazy numbers of working dies and coins being minted, maybe not that out of the question....



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Something just came to me about this. I will admit, I have not ran across this often but it does happen.

Right - when it comes to coins - "never say never!"
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I've received the 2017 Dime Clash, shot obverse and reverse, and did an overlay. The overlay is way too big to share here, so I will just share the high point clash area animation. I had to rotate the reverse about 5 deg or so but the obverse and reverse clash patterns did line up on both sides.

The strange part is still that the clash pattern is inconsistent, and shows strongest in the deepest recesses of the obverse die. Only way I can see this happening is if the reverse die broke into pieces, leaving only the deepest central part intact. But that would result in the die being unusable for further striking, and the coin could not exist.

Anyway, I will do some more work on this later, just want to share this animation for folks to ponder.

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