1849 Seated Liberty Half Dime - Overdate?

Try this: NGC 1849/1--9 VP-002

https://www.ngccoin.com/variety-plu...1873/820218/

Date position looks correct... I wish NGC has full photos of the coin to match that die crack, but they often don't.

ETA: picture for Breen-3050

All I can say is Wow what a difference 2 sets of photos make, added photos are so much better

I truly wish NGC has an easily-searchable picture archive, broken down by year/variety, like the PCGS website does. NGC has an auctions search but it is more involved.

The date position on OP's coin appears to be a match with NGC's VP-002, but I would love to be able to confirm it. The large crack would be diagnostic, but even without anything major, you'd often be able to see die lines and whatnot just fine on TrueView images.

OK, I've had another crack at a photo during prime daylight hours with more adjustments to the camera settings, so hopefully a further improvement. Still learning the camera and the macro lens.

Thanks for the feedback on photos and variety possibilities. It's funny: the text in the Breen photo says no normal dates are reported. Yeoman does have a "normal date" as an option.

I have pointed out very minor doubling at the top of the one. It's there, but it's faint. The four has a secondary shadow along most of it along the undersides, in addition to whatever is going on with the crosslet on the four. There's also some weirdness in among the nine, and still that little thing poking off the right side of it, which is pretty distinctive if it's not PMD. The cuts of the 8 and 9 are quite different to the one you've shown, makecents.

I had to do a double take on the die crack, Altaira. I was wondering how I missed it, but then on the holder I had noted it back when I first put it in there. It is quite distinctive. Mind you, I've had this nearly 20 years. I'll see about submitting it to COC.

ETA: The difference between an overdate and a repunched date seemed like semantics to me. What is the difference?

In short, RPD's are re-punched digits of the same numbers, much like an RPM. OVD's (overdates) are from leftover working dies that had old dates punched in them already and a new, different date, was punch over the old, existing date. Here is a link that explains it more in depth.

Wexler link. https://doubleddie.com/58327.html

Very clear repunched date. No trace of a different date here, simply an 1849 punched twice.

Appears to be V-9 based off of Cummins's Half Dime variety guide: https://sites.google.com/view/clint...bution-guide

Thanks for further thoughts and opinions. All welcomed and much appreciated.

Having looked through that book, Altaira, I think it most closely aligns with 8a (obverse) and 6 (reverse) on page 55. The photos were just a little too fuzzy to make much of.

It was also weirdly hard to navigate the page. There was a scroll up, but not a scroll down, I could use an arrow up or down for a press or two, but then it started moving the whole page. I could zoom in, but I couldn't maximise the "video". I was able to have a look at it all, but it was peculiar. Good resource, though. Cheers.

I also had to go have a look at photograde on PCGS to get a better understanding of what they meant about the fonts on the reverse. I only have a few Seated Liberty half dimes, so I didn't realise the variability in the fonts or the dates, for that matter. Dates really moved around a lot even in a given year, including 1849. And the reverse fonts varied wildly.

I'm still wondering what the little dag at the right of the 9 is. Is that PMD?

Here's another, better photo of the reverse.

To me, it looks like a possible die gouge. You can see it traveling northwest inside of the 9 too and no damage to the coin that I can tell, which is why I think it is maybe a die gouge.