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Came back as unc details damaged Outch.  Quote:
I think this may be the damage PCGS noted.  |
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FC, is that called damage because it's otherwise an unc coin? Would that be considered damage on say an XF or AU coin.
And is this also a difference in how the this series is graded compared to say Morgan's for example.
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Very strange.  I'm not really seeing much wrong with it. Errers and Varietys.
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FC, is that called damage because it's otherwise an unc coin? Would that be considered damage on say an XF or AU coin.
And is this also a difference in how the this series is graded compared to say Morgan's for example.  This is just my best guess. PCGS must have seen something and this is the biggest thing that caught my eye. They may have thought it isn't a bag mark, doesn't look like a minor circulation contact, and so must be damage. Their 98 code includes " any form of metal movement, either intentional or accidental." There clearly is some metal movement here, and it is in a central location on the obverse. It doesn't mean I agree with it, but that's the most I saw on my first look. EDIT: PCGS also lumps corrosion spot removal under their 98 code. There are a few places where there is discoloration or luster disruption on this coin, but I don't see evidence of corrosion. Maybe they saw that differently. The areas I noticed were (1) the spot above Liberty's head on the rim, (2) between the top of the seventh sun ray and Liberty's gown, (3) on Liberty's upper right arm, and (4) the area above the stop between the "F" of HALF and "D" of DOLLAR. Edited by fortcollins
09/02/2026 12:35 pm
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https://www.pcgs.com/cert/54923491Full size images of the coin in TrueView. I can't say that I understand what warranted a Details Damaged grade. Perhaps something was wrong with the edge?
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Maybe that particular grader was just having a bad day at the office?
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do you have in hand photos before the coin was originally slabbed. the only reason I ask is that TV photos tend to hide a lot and the only way to see the surfaces properly is raw unslabbed. maybe the rim mark at K12 obv? this is why I despise the TPG's and what they do. maybe what FC noted but boy that would be petty |
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If that is the only thing they found . Than what is the point in having anything graded. Just about all coins that are not high ms have some form of movement from circulation.hopefully when in hand a better explanation shows it self.
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Panz, no before picture unfortunately. Maybe I missed an edge ding or something but I don't believe I would have sent it if I noticed it.
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Western, I submitted 8 coins with this order. I used up some vouchers (but I still paid for them via membership).
Out of the 8, three were previous PCGS crackouts that came back one numerical grade lower, one was a really nice 21-s Morgan that they ruled pvc damage on and didn't slab (no PVC evidence anywhere from my recollection), one was a 1925 peace that I had pegged at least a 64 and came back a 62, one 1893o Morgan with obvious rim damage that they ruled cleaned (the only submission I was happy with)
To say they crapped the bed is an understatement.
This coin however has me so irked I may resubmit just out of spite lol
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Bedrock of the Community
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StackerBacker. did you ever post the coins you submitted here prior to sending them in? if not, if you have others down the road you are considering do that first and get others assessments. there are some highly knowledgeable folks on here.
*disregard* - this old brain responded with this before
Edited by panzaldi
09/03/2026 09:18 am
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Let's see some in hand photos, TV can definitely hide things. Some of these coins were unnecessary to crack out and resubmit from a financial standpoint.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Greasy you were right it ended up being a wheel mark, from my best guess by T in United on the Obverse....and I mean it is VERY slight, almost invisible on true view. Almost invisible in hand with a 10x loupe to my eyes as well.
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Numis, Several were going back to reslab for the 40th anniversary label to boost their interest anyways and I had vouchers. I tried to do it the cheapest way possible so I wouldn't have to pay for seperate slabbed vs loose submissions and I paid the price
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Boo...  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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