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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Very interesting. At least the seller is honest about the date being altered. Props to the seller for being honest and up front. 
Errers and Varietys.
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: At least the seller is honest about the date being altered altered, no, seller it is just damaged - leaving the buyer to figure out how. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Dearborn Quote: leaving the buyer to figure out how. OR maybe the bidders read the item description and not just the title..... 
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21792 Posts |
Altered date most probably, but I think an altered date on a fake coin. I think it crazy to alter the date on a genuine coin of this type. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2319 Posts |
This coin isn't genuine.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Valued Member
 United States
427 Posts |
Quote: This coin isn't genuine. Elaborate please? 8 hours left.. And just in general, I wish people wouldn't post big important claims like this and just leave it with no further discussion. A quality post gives a reason for the statement, it's better for learning and discussion all around. Please & thank you.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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The coin looks like a genuine 1800 to me. You can see the shadow of the "0" behind the 4. No one is going to take a fake 1800 and go through the trouble to make a fake 1804.
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: You can see the shadow of the "0" behind the 4. No one is going to take a fake 1800 and go through the trouble to make a fake 1804. 
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New Member
United States
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Matches up perfectly with BB-192. I figure it must be a very old alteration, maybe 1870-1900? The 4 is executed really well, and its very close to an actual 1804 dollar, although despite the excellent work I doubt it fooled too many people, considering the ghost of the 0 is still obvious.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I am leaning toward the example as being a genuine 1800 with an altered date. The coin has the ebay Authenticity Guarantee, and will be sent to PCGS for authenticity. How does PCGS rule on the authenticity if it is a genuine 1800 with an altered date? The example is a fake 1804.
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Valued Member
 United States
427 Posts |
And ... SOLD, for $1180. That would be a whopping bargain if it were the original 1800 in that condition, the market really punished the 'enhancement'.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7322 Posts |
Prior to when the toning became bolder, I'm wondering how much of the "ghost" 0 was visible?  Guess we'll never know.
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Moderator
 United States
195559 Posts |
Quote: And ... SOLD, for $1180. That would be a whopping bargain if it were the original 1800 in that condition, the market really punished the 'enhancement'. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Confusion on my end. I too am curious how Pcgs will treat this one with the new authenticity guarantee.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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I wonder if someone really wanted the coin as a genuine 1800 with an expertly altered date, perhaps for a counterfeit collection, would the ebay authenticity guarantee prevent them from acquiring the coin?
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