Unidentified Bronze Coin With Lion/Dragon/Griffin Looks Old (Id: Nuremberg Jeton)

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CharltonBilly New Member United Kingdom 8 Posts	Posted 01/06/2014 07:56 am Hello all and thanks for taking the time to look at this. I recently bought a lot of old (18th/19th century) coins at auction. I've identified all but this coin, if it is a coin, which looks to be copper or bronze, and around 28mm in diameter. As you can hopefully see it has a creature that looks like a lion with wings on one side, and a crest on the other, with old writing around the edge on both sides. Any help to identify it would be much appreciated. Edited by CharltonBilly 01/06/2014 12:42 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Pertinax Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2135 Posts	Posted 01/06/2014 08:06 am A clearer picture would be useful, or at least the lettering written down. The winged lion is indicative of St Mark/Venice, and the reverse looks like the standard Krauwinckel reckoning counter. See Rechenpfennig in the Glossary. Report this Post to the Staff
CharltonBilly New Member United Kingdom 8 Posts	Posted 01/06/2014 08:21 am Excellent, thanks. The only part of the writing that I can read clearly looks like 'VOMEII' and then maybe a pi Greek letter symbol. The lion does look a lot like the Lion of St Mark as you say. I will try to take clearer pics later. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16884 Posts	Posted 01/06/2014 08:37 am If you go to the UK Detector Find Database introductory page on Nuremberg jetons, you will find this basic type listed, under "Lion of St Mark". Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
CharltonBilly New Member United Kingdom 8 Posts	Posted 01/06/2014 08:57 am That's great. So it's a Nuremberg jeton with Lion of St Mark on one side and Imperial Orb on the other. Thanks for the assistance. What an excellent website. Report this Post to the Staff
CharltonBilly New Member United Kingdom 8 Posts	Posted 01/06/2014 12:44 pm I've added two scanned images that are more clear. It would be good to identify the maker or date it more precisely, if anyone can read the writing on the edges. Report this Post to the Staff
philadelphian Pillar of the Community United States 3253 Posts	Posted 01/06/2014 1:53 pm The earliest of these jetons had what are called "fictitious legends," or strings of meaningless letters. I'm always hesitant to make that call on a Nuremberg jeton, because as soon as I do, a word or name will jump out at me! Report this Post to the Staff
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