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Thoughts On This Octavian Denarius?

 
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 Posted 01/28/2023  12:10 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add xxmarkabyx to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Im considering bidding on this piece. Weight is 3.54 grams, diameter is 18.5mm. Anybody question the authenticity?
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 Posted 01/28/2023  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Check louisvillekyshop's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add louisvillekyshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller was easy to find so I post the link here as he or she has edge photos....My main problem with the coins are first he has a lot of octavian denarius coins and they all have the exact same patina surface. I don't see how that would be the case and it is a problem for me. So sadly I'd not purchase these...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335312419
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335341492
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335229210
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335241597

And his Marc Antony and Julius Caesar and Tribute Penny of Tiberius look the same. So quite a bad sign...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335343590
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335346896
https://www.ebay.com/itm/314335345517
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01/28/2023 1:13 pm
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 Posted 01/28/2023  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xxmarkabyx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, similar patina and surfaces. Very curious for sure.
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 Posted 01/28/2023  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Check louisvillekyshop's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add louisvillekyshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh and this is funny. Each flan these were struck on are exactly 3.5 - 3.65 grams. He should have just put up one at a time if he wanted to sell these. This is just silly now.
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 Posted 01/28/2023  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add travelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO it's a fake - patina and edges are not right.
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 Posted 01/28/2023  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has a lot of dirt on it, which might hide any production method. It's rather round and well-centred, if you compare it to others, but has pretty much the average weight and diameter (not that that matters, given the range of weights and sizes): http://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.1(2).aug.37B
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 Posted 01/28/2023  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Check louisvillekyshop's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add louisvillekyshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Says Austria but about the seller says 2022 registered in Bulgaria. Doing really well surprisingly with these. Private listings in feedback mostly so you can't see what others looked like he past sold.
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 Posted 01/28/2023  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, I just noticed that although the item says it is from 'Linz, Austria', the seller is from Bulgaria. The alarm bells are very loud, now.

Edit: snap!
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 Posted 01/28/2023  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Check louisvillekyshop's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add louisvillekyshop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You notice when he puts up a real coin, no matter how common or lower grade those are high prices and buy it now? Those have some value to him..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314271206932
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01/28/2023 1:25 pm
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 Posted 01/28/2023  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JohnConduitt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
You notice when he puts up a real coin, no matter how common or lower grade those are high prices and buy it now? Those have some value to him..

Yes, 'do not buy my real coins, or I'll have nothing to show I'm genuine'.
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 Posted 01/28/2023  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xxmarkabyx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All too interesting!
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 Posted 01/28/2023  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@xxm, consider looking for your ancient coins on vcoins rather than eBay. For sure no marketplace is 100% safe, but I believe you will find fewer of these shenanigans.
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 Posted 01/29/2023  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xxmarkabyx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Spence, I typically do. I usually buy from Vcoins, CNG, Baldwins, and dealers at the NYINC, but I was just browsing eBay out of curiosity. This is a type I'm interested and can't find many others currently available. That's probably a good thing since I went a little overboard in New York City a couple of weeks ago. I'm still licking my wounds a bit!
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 Posted 01/29/2023  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add travelcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't rule out eBay, I've bought many coins from that outlet. There are a lot of reputable dealers. There is a link top left of this forum with CCF recommend sellers.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  04:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look familiar?

From the Forvm fake reports.

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