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1964 D Dime DDR With Cud On Front Opinions On Value?

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 Posted 01/30/2023  12:47 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Liggett93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message



Any opinions would be appreciated
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 Posted 01/30/2023  02:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cud? What Cud? Machine Doubling, worth spot silver value.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  02:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, please always show us both sides of your coin . Sometimes we can spot things you may have overlooked. Thanks.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  02:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liggett93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Cud is by the corner of his mouth it's clear in the image. And spot value is not right when it books decently for the doubling alone
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 Posted 01/30/2023  02:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First, the Machine Doubling is not a premium, it detracts from value. Secondly Cuds are found rims, not interiors, your coin has a small die chip near his mouth (again, no value). When I said worth only spot value, that means it's only worth the market value of silver, no premium. The price of silver changes nearly daily .
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 Posted 01/30/2023  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Liggett93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well saying as you have been nothing but unhelpful and blatantly incorrect I feel I will wait for more opinions than yours. As I have looked up more than enough information before asking on here for opinions. You have given yours but I am able to respectfully make my own inferences about whether your input is valuable or not
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 Posted 01/30/2023  03:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cuds are found around the rim of the coin
Need better photos of the mouth
But looks like damage to me
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 Posted 01/30/2023  04:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Liggett93,
Cuds always include the rim on a coin,check the Glossary on the left side of the page. If the mark by the mouth is raised, it is a very minor die chip and kinda common with no added premium.Not a DDR it is MD with no added premium. The value is in the silver content of the coin.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  04:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lcutler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Small die chips are very common on dimes, and don't add any value. You have a pretty nice 1964 dime, but no added value for the chip or the doubling.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  07:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CJ18850 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good looking obverse. A Cud only affects the rim. Looks like a die chip near the mouth. Machine Doubling on the reverse. No premium, but if you like it, keep it. Good luck!
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 Posted 01/30/2023  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with the commentary above on Cuds (associated with rims), and Machine Doubling on the reverse.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chip or rim hit, no premium here.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Well saying as you have been nothing but unhelpful and blatantly incorrect I feel I will wait for more opinions than yours.


There is nothing incorrect in this topic. You're getting good advice here. There is no Cud. This is a sample of a die that creates a Cud...



The mark by his mouth is either a die chip or a contact mark. Can't tell for sure without clear close up images.

The doubling is Machine Doubling, not true doubling. True doubling is on the die, this was made during the strike.

No offense intended, but it sounds like you have been "learning" on Facebook Groups and Youtube which is a really, really bad idea. 90% of them have absolutely no clue.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oddguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Everything merclove said is true. Other experts and myself have confirmed what was said are the same.We are here to help you.
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 Posted 01/30/2023  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The lines on the fields of the obverse are die polishing lines Eventually these will fade with die use. If the area in question is incuse (Below the design) then it is a contact mark. If raised, then it would be a die chip. A Cud is as mentioned a breakaway from the outside edge of the die and would look like this:



A contact mark on the coin would be a coin event.
A die chip would be a die event and be on hundreds of thousands of dimes struck by that die.
A Die Cud is a die ending event to retirement. As soon as the machine could be stopped, and removed, only a few coins would look like the Cud example I posted. So only few Die Cuds. They would be a small limited number and would be a harder to find. Thus the value for these.

CoopHome: What is the difference between a damaged coin, a die chip and a Die Cud coin? the number of examples of the chips and Cuds. the less numbers there are, the more they are worth. (IE: why sand and gold are different values? the amounts of each) rarity is the difference.
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