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1913 T1 Buffalo. Error Or PMD?

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Ty2020b Pillar of the Community United States 4462 Posts	Posted 02/06/2023 8:15 pm Picked this one up recently just to get it in hand, found it intriguing. Shared it with a few CCF'ers offline, and we're a bit divided on mint made error, or PMD. Thoughts and opinions welcome! I lean error. Possibly detached reverse lam pre strike, cussing the obverse weakness (dip) seen. There is also subtle blakesley effect, more prominent on the obverse, which I didn't capture well in the photos. Or a possible small clip? Or just PMD? My Buffalo Complete Circ. AU-MS Registry Set My Buffalo One-Per-Year Registry Set Report this Post to the Staff

jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2498 Posts	Posted 02/06/2023 8:16 pm looks like a rim clip Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 76505 Posts	Posted 02/06/2023 8:24 pm Why do you think this is a rim clip? Report this Post to the Staff
jessvc1 Pillar of the Community United States 2498 Posts	Posted 02/06/2023 8:38 pm almost looks like one but your guess is as good as mine we dont know the history of this coin could be just a hit from a hammer who knows Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 76505 Posts	Posted 02/06/2023 8:45 pm Debatable. As it stands, I think it detracts from the coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Dearborn Bedrock of the Community United States 15651 Posts	Posted 02/06/2023 9:48 pm It looks like PMD to me. Collecting since 1972. Learning from then on "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn." - Benjamin Franklin My Dansco 7070 type set coin count: 37/76 My American Silver Eagle Proof Collection - 1986 to Present My Dansco 8188,8189 Innovation Dollar Albums My Dansco 8176 Eisenhower-Dollar Album My Dansco 8166,8167 Kennedy-Half Dollar Albums My Dansco 8140,8143-8147 Washington-Quarter Albums My Dansco 8125 Roosevelt-Dime Album My Dansco 7112 Buffalo-Nickel Album My Dansco 8113,8114 Jefferson-Nickel Albums My Dansco 8100,8104 Lincoln-Cent Albums Report this Post to the Staff
mikediamond Pillar of the Community United States 2339 Posts	Posted 02/07/2023 5:13 pm I was asked for my opinion. It's not an easy call. Tell me, is the straight internal edge of the sloping deficit raised or flat? Also, does the field rise to meet the straight edge? An affirmative answer to either question would indicate that this is post-strike damage. Error coin writer and researcher. Report this Post to the Staff
Ty2020b Pillar of the Community United States 4462 Posts	Posted 02/07/2023 10:07 pm Thanks Mike. Having a bit of a hard time really grasping which you're referring to. The internal edge of the straight area is the high point, but still sits below the surface of the rim. Not sure if any of these help, quick phone pics with the loupe. My Buffalo Complete Circ. AU-MS Registry Set My Buffalo One-Per-Year Registry Set Report this Post to the Staff
mikediamond Pillar of the Community United States 2339 Posts	Posted 02/07/2023 10:41 pm I am unable to determine if this is a genuine planchet defect or post-strike damage. There is evidence supporting both positions. I would have to examine it carefully under magnification. Error coin writer and researcher. Report this Post to the Staff
Ty2020b Pillar of the Community United States 4462 Posts	Posted 02/08/2023 08:54 am Thank you for the input! My Buffalo Complete Circ. AU-MS Registry Set My Buffalo One-Per-Year Registry Set Report this Post to the Staff
Ty2020b Pillar of the Community United States 4462 Posts	Posted 02/18/2023 09:16 am Sent this one off to Mike Diamond for an in hand look. For those curious, here is his analysis: Quote: Your Buffalo nickel arrived yesterday. I took a look at it and cannot arrive at a definitive conclusion regarding the authenticity of the defect. However, I lean toward post-strike damage, for three reasons. First, I see no metal flow in the bison's tail where it borders the sloping surface. Second, radial flow lines show no change as they approach the sloping surface. These would be affected by metal flow as well. Third, the concave field terminates too abruptly when it meets the sloping surface at 3:00 on the reverse face. If this defect was present before the strike, the junction between field and defect would be less sharply defined. My Buffalo Complete Circ. AU-MS Registry Set My Buffalo One-Per-Year Registry Set Report this Post to the Staff
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