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I Suspect To Have Bought A Fake From Lanz Numismatik Long Time Ago

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Hi all,

Perhaps eight or nine years ago, I bought this litra from Naxos (Sicily) from Lanz Numismatik. I realized sine then that this seller was not fully reliable, and since there are many fakes of this type around , I am afraid that mine could be one of them. What do you think?

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 Posted 06/06/2026  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Empty_Pockets to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Me and my little brain did a search on Numista and didn't find anything. However, there was some coins with grapes on the back but with a better looking obverse.
I'm inclined to say its a fake. BUT I am a neophyte at such things so wait for the experts to chime in.
Again, my little brain is no expert.
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 Posted 06/06/2026  7:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It lines up rather well with these:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=13088102
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=12252471

...but I have been wrong before on ancients.
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 Posted 06/06/2026  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Empty_Pockets to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Told you I have a little brain. LOL
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 Posted 06/07/2026  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancient67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Perhaps but it is not far trom these two that are both fakes.
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 Posted 06/08/2026  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To describe Lanz as less than reliable is a bit extreme I think
Have they sold coins of dubious origin ?
As they sell a very impressive quantity of ancient coins it seems quite likely that a few fakes will have slipped into the picture
My own experience with Lanz is but one sestertius of Vespasian
A Judaea Capta that I suspected might be well worth a bid ( ebay !)
As it was the coin was far superior than the seller pics indicated
It set me back $400
But I have zero regrets
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I think your reverse may be a die match for at least one of the two coins I linked:
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(Left, Copyright Leu Numismatik; right Copyright Gorny & Mosch)

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 Posted 06/09/2026  06:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ancient67 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my experience, Lanz was not very reliable. It sold fakes, some of them really obvious, and once I bought from it a tooled coin without any mention of tooling in the description. But perhaps this time I was lucky!
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Thank you tdziemia, you are right, the second especially is almost identical with mine.
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In fact it is identical
It's the same lighting
Same exposure
Same angle
Same lens

Conclusion ?
It's the same photo
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If you have a record of buying the coin, from Lanz, that they will recognize, send it off to NGC to be graded. If they say it is a fake and refuse it, I think Lanz will have to refund you and if not, whatever the coin is, it will be ready to sell in the NGC slab. My opinion of course, thus just a suggestion.
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Thanks for this suggestion. I am not sure this can work because Lanz does not exist any more. It has ceased all activity. If it is fake, it will remain one of the two I own (it is normal, probably for a collection that steered 15 years ago), the second being this one
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started, sort!
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