Antoninianus With Olive Branch ID Help

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PMCoin New Member Canada 38 Posts	Posted 09/06/2026 12:25 pm I am hoping someone can help me ID this coin. I have been going down the AI rabbit hole where it keeps referring me back to a Numista coin with the branch pointing upwards. The branch on my coin is pointing downward with 5 leaves. Report this Post to the Staff

Victor Pillar of the Community United States 963 Posts	Posted 09/06/2026 1:54 pm the number of leaves do not matter...these are struck with hand engraved dies and there will always be slight differences. Your coin is Claudius II and the reverse looks like APOLLI CONS though there is also an APOLLINI CONS and APOLLINI P CONS; but your reverse legend doesn't seem long enough. So your coin is RIC V Rome 21. https://en.numista.com/290108 The numista example has H in right field; while yours has M (possibly N; which is not listed for this issue, but is in a preceding issue. Maybe just an error in RIC and it should be listed as N though) in the exergue. Other possibilities listed are A and H in exergue. These are all the same listing, just different workshops. Report this Post to the Staff
PMCoin New Member Canada 38 Posts	Posted Yesterday 5:59 pm The reverse design of the Numista listing certainly appears the same except for the mint mark as you already pointed out. Mine is definitely an "N". However, the Numista listing identifies the coin as silver and a weight of 2.9 g, even though the photos don't appear to be a silver coin. Mine is bronze and weighs 3.5 g. Something is still not correct here. Report this Post to the Staff
Victor Pillar of the Community United States 963 Posts	Posted Yesterday 6:12 pm Quote: However, the Numista listing identifies the coin as silver and a weight of 2.9 g, even though the photos don't appear to be a silver coin. Mine is bronze and weighs 3.5 g. Something is still not correct here. Yes, the Numista entry is wrong about the coin being silver. You will frequently find incorrect information on the internet; that is why it is always best to check the physical reference. Report this Post to the Staff
PMCoin New Member Canada 38 Posts	Posted Yesterday 7:20 pm Numista rejected my request to add the "N" mint mark, so I can only assume they will reject my request to change it from Silver to Bronze. Perhaps we are really dealing with a different coin since the weight, material and mint mark all disagree with the Numista listing. Report this Post to the Staff
Victor Pillar of the Community United States 963 Posts	Posted Yesterday 7:56 pm Quote: Perhaps we are really dealing with a different coin since the weight, material and mint mark all disagree with the Numista listing. Your coin is, as I posted RIC V Rome 21, which is what the Numista entry has listed. As far as material, they might be confusing silver with silvered as some of these coins will have silvering added to the outside...but they are still bronze coins. The weight difference makes no matter, as these coins are hand-struck and there can be a big difference in weights. These coins were struck at X amount to a Roman pound with X being however many coins had to be struck with the current values. Without looking it up I don't know what it was during this period, but in A.D. 313- 318 bronze coins were struck at 96/lb with a pearl ring diameter of 19-20mm and avg. weight of 3.4g and your coin doesn't have a mintmark, as I posted, it is a workshop. There are different workshops (or officinae) at the mint, so officials can check on specific workers if there are problems or discrepancies. and I just noticed that the Numista entry references OCRE with a link to a page which also mistakenly uses the word silver. So apparently Numista just copied OCRE and duplicated the error. You see this a lot with online resources. Edited by Victor Yesterday 8:03 pm Report this Post to the Staff
PMCoin New Member Canada 38 Posts	Posted Today 1H 19M ago I guess the problem I am running into with Numista is that RIC is identifying this coin as silver with no "N" workshop. Therefore, they just reject my requested changes. Report this Post to the Staff
Victor Pillar of the Community United States 963 Posts	Posted Today 48M ago RIC doesn't identify this coin as silver...OCRE does. Report this Post to the Staff
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