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  My LCS got a collection and this item was labeled 1856 altered from 1858. I am assuming that this is true, and it certainly looks funky around the date, but I just want another opinion. I am also trying to figure out how this would be done-you would have to add and subtract material, and the top of the 6 looks OK to me. But then I have no experience in making such things! It came from an old dealer collection, and neither I nor the dealer who now has it now has any financial stake in this coin.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I agree with it being altered. You can see the tool
marks on the 6 and to the right of the 5 where the
metal has been pushed over.
Also the shape of the 6 is not correct.
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Yesterday 1:03 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I used images from PCGS to make a date comparison for the purported 1856 with genuine1856 and 1858 FECs. Besides the tooling of the 6, the 1 and 5 appear to be from an 1858 coin.  Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Yesterday 1:19 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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OK, thanks, CCF! So part of the fakery process is pushing metal over and reshaping it into desired shape (or similar), which, although crooked, does take some talent. It is a shame it ruined an 1858 cent, as this would have been AU otherwise and a fairly desirable piece.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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HondoB nailed it. I agree.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Aside from the 6 being the wrong shape, my first observation was that the upright of the 5 was not centered over the ball of the 5. Correct assumption is that it is indeed an altered 1858.
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Pillar of the Community
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This is also very clearly the small letters variety, which was 1858 only. The A and M in AMERICA would be touching on a 1856.
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Impressive analysis by our CCF experts.  Well done folks.  Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art |
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The top of the 5 is much longer on a real 1856, in addition to the points noted. Because the fake was based on an 1858 small letters variety, I would assume this was not a sophisticated counterfeit. Maybe an album hole filler for an otherwise impossible coin to afford?
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