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Edited by TerryT 10/03/2025 03:32 am
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Quote: A word of caution for collectors of Canadian colonial tokens. I recently discovered two new counterfeits from the Bank of Upper Canada token series...  Thank you for sharing the details. 
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Nice examples, TerryT! 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Nice additions, TerryT. 
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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LC-61 Is it or isn't it ? I started filling holes in Whitman 1 cent and 5 cent folders back in the late 50's (YIKES), then US 1 and 5 cents, then all Canadian decimal (yikes again). Before 2000 I had exactly 0 Cdn. colonial tokens, so when I saw how many there were and how cheap you could get many of them on ebay, I lost control. I had seen this token in Charlton Millennium issue when I starting scouring ebay for coins and then tokens in 2000. I had won a lot of lots on ebay, including Cdn. colonial tokens, many 1700's British halfpennies and forgeries when I came across this token. It fit in with what I collected and it was another Abe Lincoln cost coin so (all together now), "Why not?". I knew about the question of Canadian or not. It didn't matter to me if it was considered Canadian or not, it was in the book so it was like a hole to fill. When I saw one posted here recently, I, of course, had to go check mine. Sure enough, legends. I also looked in the Charlton catalogue to see what was written. Yep, no legends allowed.  On the obverse of my token, I saw damage that looks like a small hammer mark, an oval with a blob in it. And then I looked at the Charlton 2020 token catalogue - Is it considered a genuine Canadian one ? Have a look in front of the king's face in the Charlton photo. It has the same oval mark, with what looks like a cross in it. Same die ? Same clash (although nothing on the reverse matches that) ?  
Edited by TerryT 10/04/2025 12:55 am
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Very interesting! 
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Canada
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Recently picked this one up. I have an affinity for both Devins & Bolton and for blacksmiths, so the perfect combination for me.  
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Quote: Recently picked this one up. I have an affinity for both Devins & Bolton and for blacksmiths, so the perfect combination for me. Very nice! 
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Valued Member
Canada
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That's a very cool combination cedargrove A c/s on a blacksmith is new one to me
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Interesting addition, cedargrove! 
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Valued Member
Canada
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Thanks all.
@ironhorse - There are several Canadian counter-markers who used blacksmiths among their host coins, and this particular blacksmith (Wood-33 / BL-37) is present among most of them.
Countermarks are a great way to attribute coins, and it is clear that Wood-33 circulated heavily in Canada as early as the 1840s. There is a theory that Wood-33 is a Vermont token (which I think is baseless), however it is not found with any Vermont countermarks.
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United States
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Just dropping by to extend my condolences to our friends in the True North whose superb Blue Jays team had defeat snatched from the jaws of victory last night. What a roller coaster ride the whole series was! As for Dodgers fans (like me)...yes, a win is a win, for which we're grateful, but sheesh! Talk about winning ugly!
Also wanted to enter another one of my better Wellies into the forum. This is the relatively scarce variety of the Peninsular halfpennies that correctly spells the name of the Salamanca city Ciudad Rodrigo.
Is there a reason why this token wouldn't grade at AU? Breton 986, Charlton WE-11C2, Withers 1556, RR.
"If everything seems to be under control, you're just not going fast enough." --- Mario Andretti
Edited by daltonista 11/02/2025 4:27 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Nice token, daltonista. 
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Nice example! 
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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A humble Captain Broke that I picked up for 50¢. 
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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