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@jecz79,
Hopefully no more than 2 days, it left customs and the NY distribution center this morning, should be in NJ, but there have been no updates yet so not 100% certain where they are at.
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Out for delivery!
I'll give some more clues.
Coins were issued in the 1920's
All are dated the same year
They are very low denominations
Edited by hfjacinto
10/29/2024 08:20 am
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Package was delivered, needed to be signed for. Luckily I was in between calls at work. Had an incident that I had to address pretty much all day. The package came in pretty beat up which concerned me.  Opening it up coins were well protected by newspaper.  Inside an insulated envelope.  With the coins inside a plastic container.  And Ed you were right as it was Notgeld. And this is the last picture I'll post today as I still have work to do.  I'll cover the coins and the story tomorrow. |
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Nice. Are they bridge tokens?
During the inflation after world war one Portugal had many of these tokens. And even small notes valued in centavos but not counted as official. They were called cedulas instead of notes. Municipalilies and the central government all did those.
I have some german saxony notgeld but no portuguese ones. Will enjoy seeing these close.
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Excellent news, jfjacinto! Looking forward to seeing these beauties!
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Great end to the shipping saga, hfjacinto. Looking forward to the photographs of the coins.
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Thanks all! I was pretty excited to get them. Here is a sneak peak of the coins. I'll take better pictures tomorrow and give the history.  Yes the coins are ceramic.. |
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Fantastic - Portuguese porcelains!
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Nice additions, hfjacinto!  Errers and Varietys.
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Nice to see they finally arrived Helder. I'm looking forward to seeing some better pics.
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Time for some history. In 1910 Portugal overthrew its monarchy and created the first republic. By all accounts the First Republic was a time of turmoil and inconsistent government. For all practical purposes the First Republic was a complete failure. In the 16 years the republic was around there 8 presidents and 45 ministries, inflation was rampant and government services barely functional. The period following WWI were the most turbulent. With inflation stripping the value of the money so much that the coinage was worth significantly more as bullion than as money. Virtually all currency stopped circulating. Even the Casa de Moeda (Portuguese mint or House of Coin) held most of the coinage in the vaults (eventually selling the coins as silver in the 1930's). The situation was so bad that you couldn't buy anything or give change as money didn't freely exchange. In order to provide some normalcy the Casa De Moeda started releasing paper fractional currency.    There still wasn't enough money available that script also was printed, these didn't have the backing of the government but had local governments or instutions backing them.   |
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Which leads us to today's coin. Villa Nova De Gaia was founded as 2 separate towns, Gaia first (mid 13c). Then, a few decades later, there was e New Town (Vila Nova), and the two "merged" in 1834. Vila Nova de Gaia is famous for the port houses that line its side if the Douro river (the other side is Porto)   Gaia wanting to be different instead of script decided to issue ceramic coins. I maybe mistaken but I believe these were also used as bridge tokens to get to Porto. There are in total 8 different coins, these 4 are the most common and sometimes available for a pretty rare coin. They come in 1, 2, 4 and 10 centavos.   The reverse has the town seal.  Edited by hfjacinto
10/30/2024 11:05 am
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