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Jay's (Me) Educational 1200's - 1500's Italian Grosso Thread. Add To It!

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On page 3, in a series of posts between 12/6 and 12/10/2025, I posted several types of Florentine "fiorini" (grossos): one from the late 13th century, and two from the 15th, each differing in how Saint John is portrayed.
I just added this early 14th century type, MIR 44 (1306-1313) where he stands between two plants. It can be dated to 1312 by the crescent moon mintmaster's mark around 1:00 on the reverse.
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There is an earlier type dateable to 1296 which is similar, but John holds a scroll with the word ECCE (Behold!). On my radar screen, but tough to find.
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I dig the "Between Two Ferns" John!

There are some really great coin in this thread.

Here's a grosso that is a favorite of mine.

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ITALY, Milan. Giovanni Maria Visconti, 1402-1412 AD. AR Grosso O:+ S AMBROSIVS MEDIOLAN St. Ambrose mitred, nimbate, seated facing, holding scourge and crozier. R: + • IOHANES• MARIA• DVX• MEDIOLANI 3C'• Visonti coat of arms flanked by I-M. 22 mm, 2.4 g.
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There are some really great coins in this thread.

Thanks for adding yours!

Yeah, Newtraffic got us stared with his nice Venetian grossi, but as I took the thread in the "educational" direction, I've used a lot of images that are not of my own coins, but help illustrate some of the local styles.
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I have a few coming. By the way, tdziemia, the Grosso of Enrico Dandolo was not of him (from the thread soley mentioning Enrico) I bought it mislabeled and the seller is making extremely good on his mistake. He is sending me another Grosso which I'll post soon enough
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I hope it works out OK and glad we were able to help out.
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