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Fifty Cent Varieties 1944

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 Posted 02/21/2017  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
I would say Business Strike.
There are no PL coins from 1944 and the only
Specimen Strikes were with the Narrow 4 variety.
I believe that is the low 4 variety.
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 Posted 02/21/2017  11:51 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Here is an example of what an original Choice BU Cameo 1944 should look like . From an amazing original BU hoard of several hundred 1943, 1944, and 1945 fifty cents acquired on the Lower Mainland of BC in 2013. ebay 201600242852.
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 Posted 02/21/2017  11:55 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
Yup - fresh dies on that strike!!
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 Posted 02/21/2017  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
That one is called a 'wide date' I'm pretty sure.

Looks like some copper showing through.
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 Posted 02/21/2017  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list
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It's a "narrow date low 4" variety I believe.
Also, can't be copper showing through, the coin is 80% silver
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 Posted 02/21/2017  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
No copper.. that's just the toning on this...this coin is closest to a "monster toner" that I own... but just can't capture it... right now my photo set up I have a fluorescent light from above an incandescent light from the left and an LED from the right....

Today I just bought to lamps from IKEA so I can put incandescent lights in the photo area and get rid of the others! Hopefully once the kiddies are asleep I'll have some time to tinker with the lighting and capture this sucker!

So this is just struck with a set of fresh dies... cool good to know.. the difference is outstanding and so appealing! Thanks
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 Posted 02/21/2017  5:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pginrh to your friends list
Agcoinau' s coin is a low 4s variety.... Zoell J445c. The diagonal of the last 4 is double punched. There is a healthy Rverse Clash Mark which is found on most of this particular variety.
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 Posted 02/22/2017  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list

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So thanks to Wildflower I have been highly motivated to pull out all of my 50 cent pieces and go through them....

Planning ahead I was already looking at my '44's to see if I had anything interesting....



You're very welcome AgCoinAu. What I see to be one of the very best benefits of coin collecting is that a collection can be stashed away somewhere and left for days, months or years without taking much space. I'm comparing that to a hobby that requires larger sized tools, equipment or supplies and take up a lot of space.

Just a couple more '44 photos coming up.
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 Posted 02/22/2017  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list
Zoell variety FL445kto - die crack on the obverse of the 50c, the last photo on this other thread. Die cracks can be difficult to photograph but watching out for them on both the reverse and obverse of all the King George series is worthwhile.

http://goccf.com/t/196829&whichpage=2

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This one, well it's one that no one would suggest had ever been cleaned. I've noticed the dark grey dull toning to be quite common and depending on the year, whenever I see one my imagination spots it in the pocket of a dirty, dusty WW2 soldier on the battlefield.

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 Posted Yesterday   9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matt3988 to your friends list
Hi everyone,

Sorry for reviving an old thread like this, but did anyone happen to save any photos from the ebay listing Pacificoin posted here? I'm going through an old coin collection my grandfather had and am basically in the same boat as AgCoinAu (one of my 44's has very pronounced mirror fields and looks distinctly different from the others).

I know the RCM switched to chrome-plated dies around this time, so I'm guessing it's just an early business-strike, but have any of you come across similar examples with more mirror-like finishes? This was the only thread I could find online discussing it.

I tried to capture the effect as best I could on camera but it doesn't really do it justice. Apologies if the formatting is kind of wonky, this is my first post.

Thanks!

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You have shown a lot of pics but I'm still not sure what you want use to look at .
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 Posted Today  1H 12M ago  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnnysprawl to your friends list


Please crop and orient your photos so we can see the coin better.

Like AgCoinAu's second photo.
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 Posted Today  56M ago  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matt3988 to your friends list
Thanks for the welcome!

My bad though! Looking back I probably should have made it a bit clearer.

I guess my question really boils down to: is this a "normal" finish for a 50 cent piece from the early/mid-40s? All of the other coins I have from that era have much more pronounced cartwheel luster and don't really reflect colors/text in the same way.

I know that the near-4 specimen coins from 44' are supposed to have a mirror finish, I'm just wondering if the early dies from business strikes also had those same properties. The Carlton Guide isn't super clear about it and this was the only thread I could find that seemed to be be discussing mirror-finishes on 50 cent pieces.

Just wondering if anyone else had something similar in their collection or had any opinions on if this was normal. I know someone had mentioned an original 1944 Choice-BU Cameo, but the ebay link is dead (no surprise there hahaha) so I can't really compare it against mine.

Hopefully that makes a bit more sense!

Also, I'm 99% sure its not a specimen because of the rims/detail in the hair. But a man can dream no?
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Apologies for the photos, not sure why they flipped like that. I'll crop/edit them when I get back home this afternoon!
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