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Commems Collection Classic: 1925 Stone Mountain "N. Car." Counterstamp

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 Posted 02/16/2021  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list

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Was this the one we met up at or the previous one where we just missed each other?

Unfortunately, this was the time we weren't able to sync up re: the times we were going to be at the show.




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 Posted 02/16/2021  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list
When I saw the title of this thread, I got excited!

I'm very aware of the Great Harvest Campaign, and am fortunate enough to have one, and it's a N.Car. as well!

While Adna Wilde's database and information is extensive, there is a more recent compilation with a listing (including where the coin resided as of mid 2018). The Harvest Campaign census includes over 285 verified great Harvest CS Stone Mtns (increased from 140 in Adna Wilde's reference if I recall correctly).

The website is http://www.stonemountainhalf.com/ and there is a ton of information about the Stones, including an almost complete grading set.

Unfortunately, the owner of the site had some health issues, and hasn't been able to keep it 100% up to date, and the GHC CS census section http://www.stonemountainhalf.com/co...census.html) returns an error.

I'll contact the site owner and see if he intends on fixing that any time soon.

In the meantime, here's my 1925 Stone Mountain great Harvest Campaign Counterstamp N. Car. 244

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 Posted 02/16/2021  11:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beefer518 to your friends list
I'm sure Commems has a write up on the Great Harvest Campaign, but here is a link to mine from 2018 for those who may not be aware of the story;

http://goccf.com/t/317444#2702112
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Pleased learn you found a nice example commems. Thanks as always for the wonderful read.
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 Posted 02/17/2021  08:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
@Beefer518: Thanks for sharing your coin and for the reference to the Stone Mountain web site. I've enjoyed reading through the site over the past few years - it certainly demonstrates the degree to which those passionate about their coins can go! Lots of great information presented!

As you noted, however, the census page is unavailable at present, so I could not access it to check for other discoveries as I was writing my post. I didn't know about the web site owner's health issues, I do hope he is doing OK and will be able to update it soon.

I was able to access a cached copy of the census page this morning - I don't know why I didn't think of it while writing my original post, but your note helped trigger the thought! While reviewing the cached list, I found a few additions to the C/S numbers list I provided above. For the base "N.CAR." variety, numbers 56, 244 (Beefer518's wonderful coin), 281 and 321 have been identified. For the "N.C. UDC" variety, 214 and 853 have been reported. Also, there appears to be a discrepancy between the web site list and Wilde's 1987 list: a UDC-356 example on the web site list is attributed to Adna Wilde's 1987 list in The Numismatist, but Adna listed a UDC-536. (It seems likely someone transposed a couple of numbers on the web site, but it could be a verified correction to the original list. Additional research is needed.) So, that brings the census up to 31 for the "N.CAR." variety and four for the "UDC" variety - still scarce!

I wonder what other C/S numbers are out there waiting to be discovered?!

The book Unlocking the Mysteries of the Counterstamped Stone Mountain Confederate Memorial (published in 2019) is a massive volume about the coin (over 1,600 pages). It's a bit pricey at $175 for the hard cover version, but I still may pick up a copy as it's very likely worth the price. I can certainly appreciate the effort that went into researching and writing such a volume.

@Beefer518: Thanks again for sharing your coin and for spurring me on to dig a little deeper re: the census details!







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 Posted 02/17/2021  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Unfortunately, this was the time we weren't able to sync up re: the times we were going to be at the show.



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In the meantime, here's my 1925 Stone Mountain great Harvest Campaign Counterstamp N. Car. 244
Excellent!
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 Posted 02/19/2021  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hondo to your friends list
Beautiful piece commems, but I am curious... the 8 really looks like a 3 to me.

Are you confident that it's an 8 not a 3?
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 Posted 02/20/2021  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
@Hondo: Nice to hear from you! It seems like it's been awhile.


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Are you confident that it's an 8 not a 3?

When I first looked at the coin, I wondered about the "3" vs. "8" question. I know my scanned image of the reverse raises questions, but, in hand, under magnification, it appears as if the digit is an "8" to me.


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 Posted 06/18/2021  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list
A few new entries for the Stone Mountain North Carolina counterstamp census (all in a PCGS Holder):

N. CAR.: 138, 234, 273, 357

NC UDC: 302


Updated "Documented Sightings" Totals:

N. CAR.: 35

NC UDC: 5


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 Posted 06/20/2021  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Worn Out to your friends list

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A few new entries for the Stone Mountain North Carolina counterstamp census (all in a PCGS Holder):

N. CAR.: 138, 234, 273, 357


Looks like these are already on your list above.


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Beautiful piece commems, but I am curious... the 8 really looks like a 3 to me.

Are you confident that it's an 8 not a 3?


Definitely a 3
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The 3 curves differently on the bottom compared to the 8 and it is thicker as seen on my 138. Based on the image of your coin I feel it is definitely a 3.

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 Posted 06/21/2021  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list

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Looks like these are already on your list above.

My mistake, thanks for reading my post so carefully. Going forward, I'll have to ensure I do a better job of proofreading! It's always good to have another pair of eyes on things!



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 Posted 07/17/2024  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list
Blame it on jbuck, but he referenced this topic in the new one you (Commem) posted found here: http://goccf.com/t/437173#4097110

So do these numbers represent a serial number of sorts?
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 Posted 07/17/2024  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list

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So do these numbers represent a serial number of sorts?

It's my understanding that there is no uniform explanation for the numbers. Some coins were counter-stamped with consecutive numbers before being distributed to a given State for further distribution among the State's cities/towns (one coin per city, the number identifying the associated city), some coins were stamped with legislative district numbers (based on the Great Harvest Campaign's local chairman's location), and the reasons behind some others are simply unknown.

I would not, however, view them as serial numbers, as they don't represent strike order for the coins or are necessarily consecutive.



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