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I have to agree.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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And it's nice to have someone else confirm my sense of the coin's value -- nice to know I'm not crazy or kidding myself.
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As for the 3 in the date -- what are your concerns? I know there are counterfeits out there.....
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The perceived value of this variety definitely makes it worth having it authenticated by PCGS or NGC. That said, I'd advise taking the coin to a major show. Therein, you could could engage some knowing eyes on the coin solicit opinions as to its being genuine. This simple step could save you time and money relative to the authentication process. Indeed, should the coin then be informally adjudged genuine, there may be a dealer at that show who could expedite submission to one of the two major TPG's. Lastly, my personal preference for a dealer to assess this coin is Larry Briggs. He literally "wrote the book" on Liberty Seated coins. He sets up shop at many major shows. BTW,  to the CCF !! Edited by ExoGuy
Yesterday 8:43 pm
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Send it in to Pcgs. I agree the 3 looks suspicious. If possible, post clearer photos.
You realize when you know how to think, it empowers you far beyond those who know only what to think.
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Edited by NumismaticsFTW
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The 1853 no arrows/rays has a recut date, and yours appears to be authentic. Most of these were melted down. This coin is also often faked by tooling an 1858, so getting it slabbed as authentic will help you if you decide to sell. A TPG would grade this G4, details. |
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A lot of the 1858 were modified to 1853. I have to agree that the 3 on the OP coin could be modified from a 1858. OP Below  Genuine about the same wear  Genuine 1858  |
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Comparing Slider images, beside the questionable 3, the top of the genuine 18 "5" 3 seems to be slanting further to the right. I agree this needs to be authenticated.
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Viewing Slider23s photos makes me lean towards a tooled 58
Just comparing the 5s in both dates makes me state my opinion.
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Hi All -- many thanks for all this input -- I really appreciate it. Looking closely I see why you are questioning it. Attaching a couple close shots.   |
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There are tool marks inside of the 3, and the font is of the tail of the 5 is the same as the 1858. It looks like a tooled 1858.  |
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There are tool marks inside of the 3, and the font is of the tail of the 5 is the same as the 1858. It looks like a tooled 1858  |
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Below is a known tooled 1858. This one is crude compared to your example, but it has some of the same characteristics.  |
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I agree that this appears to be a tooled 1858.
In addition to what others have noted, the reverse die on your coin appears to match Reverse Die "C" from 1858. That die was matched with 1858 Obverse Die 2, with a date slightly sloping downward from left to right. Your coin's reverse die has a die crack from the rim to the lower serif of the "C" in AMERICA and very lightly continuing to the eagle's left wing (our visual right). That appears to match 1858 reverse die "C." I emphasize "appears" because of the wear on your coin.
That obviously isn't the news any of us ever want to hear. It looks to be correct, though.
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