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US 1 Cent 1856 Altered From 1858?

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My LCS got a collection and this item was labeled 1856 altered from 1858. I am assuming that this is true, and it certainly looks funky around the date, but I just want another opinion. I am also trying to figure out how this would be done-you would have to add and subtract material, and the top of the 6 looks OK to me. But then I have no experience in making such things!

It came from an old dealer collection, and neither I nor the dealer who now has it now has any financial stake in this coin.
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I agree with it being altered. You can see the tool
marks on the 6 and to the right of the 5 where the
metal has been pushed over.
Also the shape of the 6 is not correct.
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I used images from PCGS to make a date comparison for the purported 1856 with genuine1856 and 1858 FECs.
Besides the tooling of the 6, the 1 and 5 appear to be from an 1858 coin.

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OK, thanks, CCF! So part of the fakery process is pushing metal over and reshaping it into desired shape (or similar), which, although crooked, does take some talent. It is a shame it ruined an 1858 cent, as this would have been AU otherwise and a fairly desirable piece.
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HondoB nailed it. I agree.
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Aside from the 6 being the wrong shape, my first observation was that the upright of the 5 was not centered over the ball of the 5. Correct assumption is that it is indeed an altered 1858.
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