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Getting Roman Coins Slabbed Question.

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Has anyone used a company in the UK for grading and slabbing their coins?
Reason for asking is I have a few nice coins that I am looking to sell and generally the coins that have been slabbed seem to fetch a good percentage more than not.
I have been looking at using NGC but wanted a bit of advice really before I fork out for the yearly subscription.
I currently have a fair few coins on a certain selling site but am thinking of taking them off, getting them graded etc., and then putting them either through auction or back onto a selling platform.
Any input/advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
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Have you "done the research?"

That is, finding sales results on slabbed examples of exactly the coins you are talking about selling, then comparing to results for raw coins?


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looks like ICG and NGC are the only ones--all the ancients I have are graded by NGC--good luck--
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tdziemia's suggestion is a good idea.

I would never buy a slabbed ancient coin - one needs to be able to see the edge.
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I would never buy a slabbed ancient coin - one needs to be able to see the edge.


I wouldn't buy a slab either; or I would crack it open as soon as I got it...but the people at NGC are very capable and would notice an edge seam.
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I only have one slabbed ancient coin. I prefer my ancient coins raw so I can hold them. New ancient coin collectors might prefer graded coins to avoid fakes but they should buy from experienced honest dealers anyway.
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There aren't really any TPGs in Britain at all; certainly none that are competent or recognized in slabbing ancients.

Of the two American companies, NGC is currently the leader in ancients; PCGS is still ambiguous in it's timetable for ancients grading, so if you've got your heart set on slabbification of ancients, then NGC is the only boat.

The question then becomes, "does being slabbed actually help?", in terms of selling an ancient coin online in Britain. Your small sample size does seem to indicate that yes, it does help, so there's that. On the negative side is of course the time, money, and hassle of shipping the coins off to America and waiting who knows how many months for the slabbed coins to be sent back to you.

I would say that if your time and/or the money is important and significant (i.e. you need the money from the sale for specific and immediate reasons) then slabbing isn't worth the time and initial expense. But if you can afford to wait, then why not? It seems to be the more profitable end-result.

I should note that I personally am saying this while in the "wouldn't buy a slabbed ancient" camp, except perhaps to own one NGC ancients slab just for the sake of the slab, rather than the coin (I own about a dozen slabbed coins, but they really form my "slab collection" and not part of my "coin collection"). If I did buy an ancient coin I really wanted and it happened to be slabbed, I too would probably crack it out; for me, being "in a slab" would actually add a slight negative value, as I would need to go to the trouble of carefully cracking it.

Which really tells me that there are actually two markets for "slabbed ancient coins" and "unslabbed ancient coins", quite distinctly separate with very little overlap; most collectors of ancients will either want them all slabbed (a minority) or none of them slabbed (the majority). So while the slabbed ancient market might be smaller (and mainly US-based), that market is prepared to pay higher prices for the same coins.
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A final factor you may wish to consider: there are certain kinds of ancient coins that are prohibited from importation into the US, by memoranda of understanding that US Customs has signed with the source countries of those coins. And you mailing coins off to a TPG in America would count as "importation", even if the intent is for the coins to be exported right back out again in short order. Greece, Italy, Bulgaria and Cyprus are noteworthy countries on that list. So there is a small but non-zero chance that your coins could simply be seized by US Customs and "repatriated" back to their country of origin.
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A few interesting answers and some facts from Sap that I had not considered.
It seems collectors of Roman, on here anyway, would prefer them to be out of the slabs so that's a big consideration to take on board.
Yes I have researched the prices, obviously that was a must do.
I am now thinking leave the Roman coins free but the other early coins I have I think I might get graded etc., but I don't think I would risk posting to the US with the customs problem I would be facing. Time is thankfully not a problem for me so I don't mind the wait to have coins returned.
Thank you all for the helpful comments, I will let you know what I decide and will post here.
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A final factor you may wish to consider: there are certain kinds of ancient coins that are prohibited from importation into the US, by memoranda of understanding that US Customs has signed with the source countries of those coins. And you mailing coins off to a TPG in America would count as "importation", even if the intent is for the coins to be exported right back out again in short order. Greece, Italy, Bulgaria and Cyprus are noteworthy countries on that list. So there is a small but non-zero chance that your coins could simply be seized by US Customs and "repatriated" back to their country of origin.


As usual, you've thought of angles to an issue that most of us would never have considered.
Though I suspect the TPGs must have some kind of exemption/workaround on that issue.

Slabbing increasingly feels like a plague for which there is no foreseeable vaccination. I sat through part of an online Polish auction yesterday morning watching some slabbed coins go for what must have been record prices for the type. Which I chalk up to a combination of higher grades (NGC grades on medieval/early modern are invariably higher than grades the premier Polish auction houses give) and the confidence factor. I don't know if this is a factor in ancients because I don;t collect them.

I was fortunate to land a couple of unslabbed medievals at prices I could afford.
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