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Possible Livonia/Estonia "96 Kopecks 1757" - Opinion Requested

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I have two "coins" that I found a couple of days ago in my "trunk" which are a mistery to me.
I understand that they are not real (unfortunately).
I usually keep the buying date, seller, etc in an Excel. In these cases the only information I could get is that I bought them on February 2016 and classified them as "curiosities".
No idea who was the seller.
I tried to find information all around the Web, but I had no luch at all.
What makes me think they are anythinhg more than a curiosity, is this:

Livonia/Estonia
"96 Kopecks 1757"
Weight: 26.199 g
Diameter: ~40-41 mm
Non-magnetic
typical silver "cling"

First I thought that they might be false from that era, but I changed my mind. A chinese copy? Naahh! They don´t make silver copies.
A medal to celebrate a special date? As I told before I Couldn't find any information.
Ikindly ask your help. Any information will be welcome. TIA
Regards

I´m sending photos of both sides and photos of the edge

I'll make a copy/paste of this text for the other coin.


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I would presume this was a "novodel" - a restrike issued by the Russian Mint, using the original dies (or replicas of those dies) but struck long after the original issue date. Novodels were essentially made-to-order replica coins for sale to Russian and European aristocratic collectors, and were made right up to the fall of the Empire in 1917. They still have some interest to collectors, but not as much as the original coins.

The Numista page for them notes that genuine coins (and some novodels) have the top of the crown pointing towards the gap between the D and G, while most novodels have the top of the crown pointing directly at the D. The top of the crown points directly at the D on your coin.
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Thanks a lot for your reply and help.
I also thought that these could be some kind of "official restrike", but I couldn´t find any information about them not even at Numista. I'll be doublechecking the link you provide.
The grey blob in front of the emperor's face isn't a soulder mark for sure. Maybe you're right being a stickytape one.
Thank you once again.
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