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Natural Toning Or Questionable Color

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 Posted 10/05/2017  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HuguesGervais to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@skelly423
Thanks you for your comment. I try my best and my years of photography experience is helping.
Also, I am an electronic engineer which make easy to work around the physics of photography.
My real job is selling fingerprint scanners and I travel a lot around the world (so far visited 103 countries).
Below you can see photos taken over the years:
https://hugues-gervais.smugmug.com/Travel

Even for my travel photography, I don't use filter nor did I post process them.
Only crop and adjust shadow/highlight.

Good technic and equipment (not cheap) help taking good coin photo.
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 Posted 10/05/2017  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HuguesGervais to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Percy
I don't really know since I never have a coin toned during the time I own it.
Most coins I bought are already slab except the silver $1 1971 ane above.

I read and hear that sulphur within the velvet, carton and cloth increase the oxidation.
That's why there are so many 1971/72/73 dollar nicely toned, all stored in the red velvet.
Same for 1967 set.
Also, many proof-like set (before the plastic oil was use) have deep toning because of the white carton holder.
See these 2 lots from TCNC auction.
I try to buy it but I was outbid.
https://auctions.canadiancoinsandpa...ion/87/lot/1
https://auctions.canadiancoinsandpa...ion/87/lot/2

We see the toning is stronger for the 10c and 25c because coins are smaller than 50c/$1 so toning cover the entire coin. Also, been less thickness there is more air coming in and interact with the carton.
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 Posted 10/05/2017  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HuguesGervais to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another example of coins that would look AT not knowing the history.
I bought the set still sealed in the plastic film but with minor cut in it.
I pay a small premium but not enough to justify someone to get the trouble to accelerate the toning.
I can't explain why it toned like that.
I guess, if left by a window with sun over many years, the cut allow oxydation coming from specific direction.
These sets are typically display at dealer store by the window.
Again, just my guess.

If I show the single coin photo to many people, most will say AT (including myself) but the fact it's still inside the film make 99.9% as NT.

They sold quickly when I list them on ebay and I am sure PCGS would tag them as questionable colour.

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 Posted 10/05/2017  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 4mile123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hugues, I have purchased coins from you and am very happy with them. Thank you for this thread, I have found it very interesting. Also, the pictures you have taken on your travels are incredible!
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 Posted 10/05/2017  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't collect Canadian coins, but this thread has been fascinating and instructive. Thanks for sharing your photography set up to bring out an accurate depiction of the toning. And I agree your travel photos are outstanding!
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 Posted 10/05/2017  9:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too many pictures for me.

Most look AT, but then again, I just looked at them for a split second so I could be way off.
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The 1973 dollar is silver, not nickel.


It's not silver. The 1973 PEI dollar pictured in your original post is a nickel dollar. The silver dollar for 1973 was the RCMP centennial.
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 Posted 10/06/2017  07:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HuguesGervais to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@SPP-Ottawa
I was thinking you were talking about the 1977 $1 I just posted.
But now I realized you were talking about the 1973 PEI from initial LARGE posting (which is blue).
My mistake.

And I agree with you, it's nickel and cannot tone like that.
I didn't realized that coin was nickel when I bought it.
I was thinking it was silver.
Now it make sense PCGS didn't slab it. 25 USD grading fee lost because of my ignorance.

Below is the details when I bought it on ebay to be sure people don't think I tone it myself.

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