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How Far Back Can We Go? Eighth Edition! We Need - 1366 C. E. (A. H. 767) Help US John Conduit!

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 Posted 10/20/2025  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chateau-Renard Liard 1613:

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Looks like some mint luster in the fields? That's something I have on a few of my Livonian solidi, and I've wondered how it comes about. Do the other parts of the die wear more quickly?
It does look like mint luster, yes! I hadn't seen the coin in several years (obviously...) but if I find it again I'll try to take less blurry photos.
And that's an immense die crack/cud, too (and a more normal, but still quite large, bisecting crack on the other side). So yeah, those dies must have worn down a lot by that point.

I recall some similar fields on my 1645 Livonian solidus, too; I wonder if it was something about production methods at the Riga mint specifically, and/or maybe something about soil in the Livonian area that made the coins look that way.
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Or maybe there was a tradition of extra polishing of the fields in the dies, but less attention to the devices?

Anyhow, like some of spence's runs, I've got a short run of the Polish 1 grosz coins. Here is 1612 with a strange cadence of punctuation in the date:
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Anyhow, like some of spence's runs, I've got a short run of the Polish 1 grosz coins


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Here is 1612 with a strange cadence of punctuation in the date
Excellent!
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Thx for the kind words all. Here is a 1/24 Thaler from Saxony (Vicariat issue) dated 1612:

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ND (1611) Bremen 4 Shilling. KM#6
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ND (1611) Bremen 4 Shilling. KM#6

What did use to id the date on that coin Keith?
Is it on Numista? I tried to look it up but cannot find it (yet)
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https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4986707
Though Krause didn't know it, apparently it is known.
Cool coin.

I think this is the end of my run of Polish 1 grosz coins. The crown/eagle design became standard on small Polish silver in the 1380s if I'm not mistaken.
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Here is a Spanish Half Real dated 1611:

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Though Krause didn't know it, apparently it is known.

It's in the Krause catalog
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