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How Far Back Can We Go? Eighth Edition! We Need - 1366 C. E. (A. H. 767)

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 Posted 01/03/2026  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems we are all enjoying the Baltic at this time of year

Here is a 1538 Polish grosz/groschen struck in Gdansk:
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I thank you all for keeping this moving along in my absence with some great examples!
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Hungary is only a little ways away from the Baltic Sea. Here is another Denar, this time dated 1538:

How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Eighth-Edition!-We-Need---1366-C.-E.-A.-H.-767
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1537 Annengroschen of Brunswick (City of, I think):
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Interesting reverse design @tdz. Who is the second kid? Or is that not Mary with child?

I'm in the middle of a Hungarian Denar run. here is one dated 1537.

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Who is the second kid? Or is that not Mary with child?

The adult is Anne (or Anna), mother of Mary, which I think makes the two smaller figures Mary and Jesus (yes, some imagination required). Multigenerational family portrait
I think this version (Durer 1519) was more traditional:
How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Eighth-Edition!-We-Need---1366-C.-E.-A.-H.-767

1536 Polish trojak of the City of Elbing:
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Ok good to know @tdz. Thx for helping me learn something today.

For today, I'm still in Hungary with this 1536-dated Denar:

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How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Eighth-Edition!-We-Need---1366-C.-E.-A.-H.-767
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1535 Polish trojak of the City of Elbing
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Groschen, Poland, 1534

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I think there may be three of us with a version of this coin.
The 1534 groschen was struck in two versions. One has a high crown and Sigimund wearing the Renaissance "pageboy" hair style (though he is over 60 years old!). This is Giljan's coin, and this one:
How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Eighth-Edition!-We-Need---1366-C.-E.-A.-H.-767
How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Eighth-Edition!-We-Need---1366-C.-E.-A.-H.-767

At some point in 1534 the style changes to a sort of soft hat under the crown, and no hair showing. I think spence has this one.
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Very nice!


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At some point in 1534 the style changes to a sort of soft hat under the crown, and no hair showing. I think spence has this one.
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I think spence has this one.


Yes but sadly mine is dated 1535 and I didn't get to post it again yesterday so will have to wait for the 9th edition I suppose.

For today, I've got an other Hungarian Denar:

How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Eighth-Edition!-We-Need---1366-C.-E.-A.-H.-767 How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Eighth-Edition!-We-Need---1366-C.-E.-A.-H.-767
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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