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| Current Sedwick Auction
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realeswatcher
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 Posted 05/11/2025 10:58 am
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He indeed does very well with jewelry pieces! And even Heritage's new competing "shipwreck" auctions (the latest of which is Mon 5/12) have seen similar results with such pieces.
I didn't watch the entire auction... one thing that surprised me as being a tad not insane were 1715 Fleet cob 8E.
But in general, Spanish Colonial and Latin American, which is of course heavily overlapped with shipwreck/treasure/pirate genres, has only gotten stronger and stronger through recent years. This is true for the bottom of the market through the top. |
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| I Need Help With This Coin. I've Tried Other Numismatic Forums, But No Replies.
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realeswatcher
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Posted 04/02/2025 6:43 pm
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Looks to have to been deftly toned with some lovely deep charcoal Deller's Darkener Shoe Polish for Silver. Coin is an absolute steal even at more than $3000!!!
This is a good thread - more cowbell, please!
As an aside, if you do a runthrough of auction archive examples of 1641 Gelderland pieces, there are some nice mostly level/round planchets with even strikes and full or nearly so legends... atypically so for what we think of for the average lion dollar. |
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| The 1809 Mexican Chilpanzingo / Zmy Script Mint Stamp Dilemma?
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realeswatcher
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Posted 03/26/2025 6:13 pm
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Cast hosts of the Proper Bust design are rather unusual, pushing the date boundary - but 1812 seems early enough and that stamp definitely looks good.
I think more silvering showing on the reverse here is simply a product of having more protected areas design-wise.
So many moving parts with these to get a grip on - proper combination of stamps, whether variant stamp "dies" are genuine/acceptable, in the proper sequence (which isn't always obvious as made if the stamps are sloppy), on proper host dates/types/metals/surfaces. Frankly a mess - really a project and for the truly astute specialist at that.
John, I mentioned this to threefifty recently relating to a different pice - have you browsed through the website for the Bank of Mexico ("Banxico") collection of these? The pedigree information is incomplete or missing on a lot of them, but many look kosher and among those are an incredibly large variance in weights and visibly apparent metallic composition. Many look nearly all "coppery" like threefifty's 1812. Pictures aren't the greatest but decent enough to review.
I would presume Max has looked through these all or even had the chance to see the cabinet in person. |
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| Johnny Thorpe Son Of Olympian Jim Thorpe - The Great Cob Treasure Find Of Essex County, NY?
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realeswatcher
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Posted 01/20/2025 5:11 pm
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John, I would think this might have better value in a "non-numismatic" type of setting... American Indian memorabilia, or even and entertainment or sports auction?
Or, alternatively (depending on the potential "legal issues"... perhaps just eBay as a moonshot-priced BIN/Best Offer to gauge the interest.
Though, to be fair, honestly not sure exactly how sexy a pedigree "Jim Thorpe's son Johnny" is...
If you wanted a numismatic auction, Sedwick would be the choice. Did you catch him at the NYINC?
Or perhaps Holabird (which is no longer with Kagin, right)... they used to handle things along these lines. |
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| Mexico 8R 1743 Columnaria
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realeswatcher
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Posted 01/06/2025 9:18 pm
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This is a tricky call from those semi-odd photos. Surfaces/coloring definitely look strange in the pics but I'm not sure if it's just blatantly obvious white metal OR or this there's some combination of a weird cleaning/dip plus odd lighting/photo editing for the pics. That could be why PLUS VLTR is jumping out so much (residue left behind in the protected, recessed lettering).
So, eh, idk... slight off-center, edge/denticles not "neatly" struck, slightly unevenly thick planchet in spots... all quite normal for early 1740s Mexico. Slight repunching of letters occurs frequently on genuine pieces. Detail, strike look appropriate also, and even the bit we can see of the edge design looks proper - but the surfaces are just odd.
If I had to say, it's probably genuine (cleaned)... but would definitely not bet my life on it from those pics.
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I would like to improve my observation knowledge and continue my education on these type of coins.
The best thing to do is look through archives of known genuine pieces - including the large amount of shipwreck pieces of these years (e.g. lots of Reijgersdaal wreck pieces from right around 1743, usually really well-preserved). Some/much of your observations/red flags are not really so if you're familiar with various eras of Mexico (or other mint) pillar 8R. The more genuine pieces you look at, the more this will make sense. |
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| An 1832 Cap And Ray From Durango At 24.0 Grams. Poorly Silvered CCc Or Regal?
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realeswatcher
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Posted 01/06/2025 8:52 pm
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A piece that very obviously reveals its nature... and indeed, it's one of the most commonly seen Cap & Ray CCs - Riddell 365 and/or 371. Typically plating over cores ranging from nearly base metal to "some" silver. Bob has posted about these NUMEROUS times over the years here... expecting at least (5) pages on these 1832, 1834, etc. intermarried Durango French die counterfeits when he finishes!
BTW, regarding weights, I find that French eagle Durango 1830s 8R which would be regal seem to typically come "fairly" close to standard, though there certainly can be some variance. I've noticed more variance on 1830s Zacatecas and Guanajuato that otherwise appear fully "regal"/proper alloy. I recall Bob and I debating this a few times, whether this could be a sign perhaps of somehow "non-kosher" pieces (stolen/sold dies/punches or debased back door mint products?)... I'm sure Bob has been doing more homework on the question the last couple years. |
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| Help With 2 Interesting Spanish Reales. Double Struck And Wrong Size
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realeswatcher
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Posted 12/05/2024 11:12 am
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1st piece is neat and curious. Segovia, I think more likely Philip IIII rather than III... and I think we see a garbled 1652 date (a frequently encountered date for Segovia roller press minors)... but one of those two kings.
Certainly looks genuine/as made, however... While I'm not a real big studier of production method peccadilloes, I'm confused how a roller press could produce doubling like this. I think the whole sheet of metal would have to be done twice. Have never seen one of this type doubled like this before... and don't see any in a quick review of auction archives.
Would seem to be more indicative of an individual "rocker press" die than a multi-coin "roller press"? Hmmm...
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2nd piece, by style, is Seville 1620s-30s. The shield looks oversized dimensionally for the flan, and the shape is a bit odd for the period... so the easy guess is it's simply an 8R that was cut down to 4R size.
However, the cross almost looks properly sized, so there's a chance it was a 4R size by birth, struck in error with an 8R shield die. Seville Philip IIII is rather plentiful and that's not common for those from my observation, but definitely not an unheard-of occurrence on cobs from other mints/periods (e.g., Mexico Charles II). |
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| 1811 Zacatecas Lvo Contemporary Counterfeit
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realeswatcher
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Posted 10/19/2024 11:43 am
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threefifty, it's absolutely an exact "die" match to the one you posted and the 2nd one I found in Worthpoint's eBay archives. The diagnostics are unmistakable.
Cropped them identically for comparison - it should be obvious. They are definitely (3) different pieces... enough unique strike (casting) features, ticks, etc. to discern that conclusively. Also, interestingly... note how PROVISIONAL has not been reengraved as on the first two pieces we've seen. That must've been an earlier version of the mold where they had only done the date.
BTW, I don't think this Soler y Llach piece is the original base coin.
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