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| 1990 Lincoln Cent Errors
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coop
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 Posted 05/27/2023 11:09 am
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| It is a split plating issue. I feel machine doubling is other what causes this to happen from the die movement after the strike. (Note the MD on the Left side of the devices?) |
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| 1983 Lincoln Cent Errors
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coop
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Posted 05/27/2023 11:03 am
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| The initials are showing a die crack, but also a die chip or two. If the base is solid, and doesn't press downwards with a toothpick, it maybe a second die chip. The areas showing gray to through the plating is where the plating has rubbed off this coin. So the biggest take away on this coin is know the differences. Probably not a premium for the coin, but the education will be stored in your memory. You might save this as an educational coin to show to a new collector to help him in his training for what is going on with the coins we find. |
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| 1958 D Wheat Penny Possibly DDO
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coop
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Posted 05/27/2023 10:45 am
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Everything thing is normal The Machine doubling on Liberty and the Die wear is showing above the devices on the motto. The DDR is affected on these areas:
1958-D DDO-001 The reason all the other devices look like your coin, it that the description tells you what to look for on this variety. All the other devices are normal. They are used for identifying what die state the examples are in.
https://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/coop49...ISTA_AAA.jpg
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Description: Light spread on lower B of LIBERTY and upper 9 of date.
Coppercoins listing is 1958D-1DO-001 for this listing:
https://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln...ie_state=mds
http://www.varietyvista.com/01a%20L...8DDDO002.htm
Shows on the bottom of the 'B' On Liberty on the DDO-002.
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Description: Light spread on lower B of LIBERTY.
Coppercoins match is : 1958D-1MM-009
https://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln...ie_state=mds
Thus you will have to note the areas where the hub doubling is present on these listings. All the other devices will be mostly normal. Your coin is a normal coin example. It doesn't show the hub doubling, making the DDO for that year.
CoopHome: Why is my coin not a certain listing? All the other devices look the same?"
a doubled die is identified by the hub doubling on the die. if the die is normal, it will not show the hub doubling. Also another clue when matching doubled dies are the location of the mintmarks on the pre 1990 coins. not the same location as the listed one? not that doubled die. If the mintmark was a match, the hub doubling would also have to be a match first. So a doubled die is noted by the hub doubling on the die, thus the termed "Doubled Die." Without the hub doubling it could be machine doubling or die wear. But the hub doubling on the coin has to be a match in order to be a doubled die. |
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| 1909-P FS 1102 (Ddo) MDS Stage C
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coop
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Posted 05/24/2023 3:22 pm
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On the 1909 cents the 'R' doesn't show that mark on the 1102. I was checking for the top of the 'R' wondering if it was altered, but it is normal for that year:
The markers on the 'R' was not on the three examples from PCGS examples. |
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| 1909-P FS 1102 (Ddo) MDS Stage C
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coop
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Posted 05/24/2023 2:25 pm
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Bottom image. Not the oblong '0' on the date.
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Die chips on the Liberty area.
Bottom image. The upper images are for the 1101 DDO. Why the extra numbers instead of 101 and 102? Because these are VDB dies on the 1101,1102. Without the VDB would be the DDO-101, DDO-102. |
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| 1965-P Roosevelt Dime - 1-St DDO To Be Found
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coop
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Posted 05/24/2023 2:16 pm
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Wexler only has one listed for that year
http://www.doubleddie.com/1570097.html
No listing for that year on Variety Vista
http://www.varietyvista.com/07%20Ro...Listings.htm
As mentioned, it is die abrasion on that area of the die. When part of the die gets polishing into the deeper design, the edge can be affected and make it raised on the coins struck with die. But the die was altered post creation of the die. So it is not hub doubling, but a reduction on the area next to the fields. Don't happen often. Only when the disk moves over/into the void area of the die.
If these marks match up to a clashed die issue, that can also alter an area of the die, that would be hard to fix on the die.
(they hope no one with notice, or they didn't notice it) It may have been clash induced. You have to consider that the dies during a clash can rotate and affect other areas that would normally not be a clash mark, except of the rotation issue. Either way is if not a doubled die issue. Just an altered die post die creation that was altered by a die event.
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